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Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:31 pm to UASports23
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it was nice that we weren't a crazy penalized team today.
yep… I was shocked we actually drew them offsides twice, at a crucial time.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Milroe was decisive with his zone read in the second half. Night and day difference compared to how he usually runs it
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:41 pm to MrPigskin
The refs tried in the beginning. They finally realized their yellow flag was in their pocket. Clean game Bama.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:54 pm to TideSaint
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My biggest gripe with Rees is our scripted drives to start the game.
Zero creativity. Zero motion. Just bland vanilla horseshite.
It appears to me that Rees spends the first couple of series trying to understand what the other team is trying to do. What is the DC's game plan. That would explain his desire/need to be upstairs in the box. It would also explain why he has a reputation of waisted plays early in possessions.
Good OC's that put together really strong "scripts" for the beginning of games can often get off to a fast start. The really good OC's build a "script" they use to set up big strike plays later in the game.
OC's without significant experience often get lost in their play sheets when the "script' ends.
Rees seems to have the ability to make adjustments to his game plan based on what he learns early in the game. The problem is, he is up in the box and does not have an experienced QB that can take what is said on the phone and execute the adjusted plan.
At halftime, Rees is able to make adjustments with the QB face-to-face and on a white board. Milroe is learning to incorporate those adjustments but only after the face-to-face time with rees.
I wonder if they could set up something like the pros do with a zoom type meeting on the sidelines where Rees could draw out the adjustments on a shared screen while they talk??
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:01 pm to Tw1st3d
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At halftime, Rees is able to make adjustments with the QB face-to-face and on a white board. Milroe is learning to incorporate those adjustments but only after the face-to-face time with rees.
Milroe was one of the last guys out after halftime. He may have been getting some extra coaching.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:03 pm to Tw1st3d
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Good OC's that put together really strong "scripts" for the beginning of games can often get off to a fast start. The really good OC's build a "script" they use to set up big strike plays later in the game.
Conversely, Heupel knew how we’d cover certain looks based on personnel and had a great script to start. But once we adjusted he couldn’t do much.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:10 pm to Bham Bammer
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Conversely, Heupel knew how we’d cover certain looks based on personnel and had a great script to start. But once we adjusted he couldn’t do much.
True. Heupel does good game prep but lacks in his ability to adjust the plan after the game starts. The combination o pre-game prep and in-game adjustment are part of what made Lane and Sark so good.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:11 pm to Tw1st3d
And we/Golding never made him adjust last year. SMH.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:21 pm to Joka2kold
Did BoB ever scheme guys wide open deep to guys that weren’t named Jameson Williams?
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:23 pm to Joka2kold
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I've seen more guys run WIDE OPEN then I've ever did with BOB.
I miss BoB's routes that had two, sometimes three receivers running to the same part of the field and brought all their defenders with them.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:42 am to Glorious
Metchie and that's about it!
Brooks at times but he would have to win on a route.
Brooks at times but he would have to win on a route.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:43 am to YStar
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we are a different team when we play creatively than when we play like a Midwestern team.
We are a different team when he simplifies it for Milroe.
It appeared in the first half plays that required more time to develop was the issue. The more time Milroe takes to get the play off the more he gets sacked, the OL breaks down, and he struggles to read the defense. In the second half the play calling looked to be smoother because Milroe was having to get the play off without too much thinking about the what ifs.
If simple and quick Milroe does well. The OL seems to be holding up unless he takes too much time. We know he can not feel pressure or read a defense. So, any play designed to get the ball out of his hands quickly seem to work for him.
My one issue with the play calling is the run up the middle.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:12 am to Tw1st3d
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It appears to me that Rees spends the first couple of series trying to understand what the other team is trying to do.
This is am exuse for bad playcalling. Since when has it been the OC's job to figure out the DC??
The OC is suppose to be creative in attacking the weaknesses the opponents defense has shown on tape and the DC is suppose to adjust to that.
What proof?
See how our DC adjusts to the new wrinkles every team puts out the first two drives this season (and again after halftime).
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At halftime, Rees is able to make adjustments with the QB face-to-face and on a white board. Milroe is learning to incorporate those adjustments but only after the face-to-face time with rees.
I don't believe this either.
I think we have a very high level offense analyst (or set of them) in the team which breaks things down then gives Rees the recommendations.
Why?
Rees rarely makes adaptations during the game. In fact he regress to his simplified safe Midwestern style of playcalling. Yet when Saban got mad about the playcalling in that sideline interview after the first quarter.. magically the playcalling change for a couple of drives... then reverted.
At halftime again (like the past two games) the playcalling changed again where we started exploiting weaknesses and without the opponent adjusted it reverts to the Midwestern style after a certain amount of plays.
I think we have a genius or a set of them in our analyst team.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:33 am to Joka2kold
I blasted Rees yesterday, but he called a much better second half.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:43 am to Roll Tide Ravens
I’ll reserve judgment on Rees until he has a functional OL and QB. Granted, it’s his job to work with what he has as OC. Less predictable 1st down runs or more imaginative 1st downs would be a start.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:48 am to Bamafig
What kind of logic is that?
If your OC is exceptional or even good he can consistently create mismatches IN game without needing his head coach to yell at him and without needing halftime for someone else to tell him how to change the playcalling (which he reverts back to his norm anyways).
Our QB isn't perfect but he isn't that bad. Our OL is getting better it seems. Can't continue to blame them for not being perfect while our OC's playcalling is very very very far from that.
If your OC is exceptional or even good he can consistently create mismatches IN game without needing his head coach to yell at him and without needing halftime for someone else to tell him how to change the playcalling (which he reverts back to his norm anyways).
Our QB isn't perfect but he isn't that bad. Our OL is getting better it seems. Can't continue to blame them for not being perfect while our OC's playcalling is very very very far from that.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:49 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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but he called a much better second half.
If we'd just incorporate rollouts, perimeter runs, designed QB runs, etc. into the offense for a full game the offense might look good. It finally looked cohesive for once yesterday.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:23 am to Marktastic86
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I miss BoB's routes that had two, sometimes three receivers running to the same part of the field and brought all their defenders with them.
I miss BoB having Bryce in the shotgun on 2nd and goal from the 1, losing three yards, then throwing incomplete on 3rd down and settling for a FG. Good times.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:14 pm to YStar
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This is am exuse for bad playcalling. Since when has it been the OC's job to figure out the DC??
The OC is suppose to be creative in attacking the weaknesses the opponents defense has shown on tape and the DC is suppose to adjust to that.
Agreed. The part I left out of the previous post...
Rees appears to suck at developing a stong opening salvo (script) then building on that salvo with plays for predictive DC adjustments.
Halftime adjustments...
Those adjustments only live long enough for the DC to compensate for them. At that point Rees falls back to his comfort zone. He his not particularly good at making adjustments from the box.
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