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re: Tom Loy of CBS/247 Sports says Ty may be looking to transfer …
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:48 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:48 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Bud. You coach middle school football. You’re not a QB guru and not one person on this board is so take that QB development elsewhere because you’re talking out of your butt. His coaches repeatedly made statements to reporters than he needs to let it rip. I would assume they were coaching it even harder in film and practice. Ty repeatedly continued to pat the ball and be late on throws. He is who he is and that’s an average QB that can also be really damn good when he is letting it rip. There is a massive reason why Milroe started over him with two different coaching staffs.. and a lacrosse player also started over him.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:49 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Or he stayed healthy. Or he did what almost all QBs do in their 2nd year of starting.
The same way a healthy Jalen Milroe improved in his second year of starting under most of these same coaches? I get what you’re saying but my comment isn’t a reflection on Ty’s ability. I think Ty would flourish in a system that is creative, has an identity, and actually schemes against an opponent to get guys open. I don’t think that happens for him here without some changes being made.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:49 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Devil’s advocate question, in today’s environment where a season is considered a failure and a coach’s job is in jeopardy if you don’t make the final 12, can you afford to spend two years developing a quarterback?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:51 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yeah, but that was an incredibly stupid pick.
They make a lot of them in the NFL, especially with regards to quarterbacks.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:56 pm to angryslugs
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and actually schemes against an opponent to get guys open
I really don’t think some of you guys watch the games. Ty missed countless wide arse open guys all year that you can see from the view of the TV copy and even more when you were there in person. I’m sure Grubb told him to miss those receivers though. I actually think one of the insiders said CKD was over heard telling Simpson to not complete a deep ball for two months because he was trying a new strategy
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:57 pm to Bham Bammer
True enough. I do not believe Ty will get his stock higher than it is now, so he should probably declare and try his hand at the draft if he isn't going to stay.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:05 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Ty coming back is our best chance of success next year and if he doesn’t come back, it’s a rebuilding year.
I think a healthy Ty is a great QB, but I'd rather take our lumps with a high-ceiling talent like Russell. Dude is that good.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:08 pm to JoylessMurderball
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I really don’t think some of you guys watch the games. Ty missed countless wide arse open guys all year that you can see from the view of the TV copy and even more when you were there in person.
Fair enough. I haven’t seen a game from either of these vantage points. What I saw were lots of protection breakdowns, a qb that often bailed too early, a bunched scheme with awful route trees, and a non existent running game.
Were there plenty of missed throws? Of course. Do I think, despite that, our OC could have game planned better and established some sort of rhythm offensively? Again, of course.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:21 pm to angryslugs
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a bunched scheme with awful route trees
Help me out here. What were the awful route trees out of the bunch set you didn’t like and that you would have drawn up differently? Can you tell me every coverage we saw in a bunch set and why our “awful” route trees didn’t work? You sound like a helluva coach to be able to diagnose the entire route tree and coverage so quickly so please help me learn.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:25 pm to angryslugs
I still believe what happened to Ty was mostly mental. He was accounting for some of the Oline issues by getting the ball out fast and he looked great when he processed quickly and pulled the trigger. With that came some dangerous throws and he was late sometimes which led to some hospital balls. I think after that he didn't always trust what he saw and wouldn't pull the trigger exacerbating the Oline issues. It also would have helped if they would have used his legs more and told him if option 2 or 3 was not open look to run.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:29 pm to JoylessMurderball
Our problem is we have very little use of the shorter stems because so much of what we do is a cut at 10-12 yards from LOS. We needed to use the shorter stuff to replace the run game like a pure air raid given how bad we are at running the ball.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:30 pm to Diego Ricardo
Dink and Dunk is all we had this year
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:32 pm to TS1926
If he goes to UT he will destroy any goodwill he has at Bama for a chance to win 9 games and be quickly forgotten in Knoxville. I can’t believe he’s *that* retarded.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:38 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Our problem is we have very little use of the shorter stems because so much of what we do is a cut at 10-12 yards from LOS
Once again.. do yall not watch the games? Cuevas made a living on stick routes, the TD to Lotty vs Oklahoma. Hollywood caught those same routes too and I would say it was one of our top pass plays overall besides vert dig out of 2x2.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 5:40 pm to JoylessMurderball
Hey man, I’m just an armchair qb like the rest of us (and a backup at that.) What I saw was deep safety’s, pressures designed to confuse our line and backs (stunts, overloads, etc), and press man to force Ty to hold the ball longer (which he is prone to anyway.)
As for our routes, to me, they seemed to be slow developing and deeper than they needed to be based on how defenses were playing us. Also didn’t seem to have hot routes even though teams were blitzing us often. And Ty was slow at recognizing the need to get the ball to the safety valves, plus they were easier to cover because everyone else was deeper.
But the good news is, I’m sure our OC will be back and we’ll all see how much of our struggles was scheme or qb. Personally, I think it’s a combination and I don’t think Ty could ever have sustained success running this offense.
As for our routes, to me, they seemed to be slow developing and deeper than they needed to be based on how defenses were playing us. Also didn’t seem to have hot routes even though teams were blitzing us often. And Ty was slow at recognizing the need to get the ball to the safety valves, plus they were easier to cover because everyone else was deeper.
But the good news is, I’m sure our OC will be back and we’ll all see how much of our struggles was scheme or qb. Personally, I think it’s a combination and I don’t think Ty could ever have sustained success running this offense.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:00 pm to JoylessMurderball
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Once again.. do yall not watch the games? Cuevas made a living on stick routes, the TD to Lotty vs Oklahoma. Hollywood caught those same routes too and I would say it was one of our top pass plays overall besides vert dig out of 2x2.
Yeah I watched them and there are a lot times where we are really pressing vertically. I would not classify what we do as dink n dunk. They’re trying to push the ball down field.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:02 pm to angryslugs
Safeties only were deep on 3rd downs due to being in long situations.
1st and 2nd downs safeties played 11 yards or closer to the box
1st and 2nd downs safeties played 11 yards or closer to the box
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:04 pm to Bear88
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Dink and Dunk is all we had this year
It's actually the only thing our QB felt comfortable doing. It's odd that the same people who complain our routes are all "deep" or "too long to develop" are the same who say we only throw short.
The reality is the offense is based on taking deep shots but our QB doesn't like to throw those. He attempted like under 25 total throws over 30 yards all season long.
That kills this kind of offensive scheme
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:07 pm to YStar
Yeah, and I think we had some real problems caused by Ty not feeling confident in his ability to hit downfield passes once people took away his favored hole shots 20 yards deep against cover 2.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:15 pm to JoylessMurderball
Yeah, I watched the games and attended a few. Our seats were n the lower rows of the endzone so when the offense was moving away from us I had the vantage point of what Ty was seeing. The reason so many may appear open to you is because youre looking from above the play. So a lot of receivers are going to look open. But the reality was, teams started dropping LB's and DE's into the zones where those short "open" receivers were and from ground level are hard as hell to see. I know because I was right behind the offense watching. Couple that with Ty not having a lot of time (on many occasions) to wait until they broke open to the parts of the zones where he could see them and you got what we got in the second half of the season. UGA did the exact same thing to us in the SECCG. There were two replays ABC showed from behind our LOS and you got a better view of what Ty was looking at, and those zones in the short to intermediate parts of the field were filled with UGA players while they were getting QB pressure with only four down linemen. You're grossly oversimplifying the situation.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 6:16 pm
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