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re: TIL Mike Shula was hired as South Carolina's OC this offseason - FIRED

Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:05 am to
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1583 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:05 am to
His biggest mistake was listening to Ray Perkins for advice. During the season, they would speak weekly. When Mike was told he needed to jettison some of his staff or he might be fired, Perkins told him that Bama was bluffing, that they wouldn't dare fire him and that he should just musical chairs shuffle his staff around and not fire anyone.

Yeah. Solid advice there, Ray.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6533 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:56 pm to
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listening to Ray Perkins for advice

If true (and I have no reason to doubt you) that shows an incredible lack of awareness by both Shula and Perkins. Yeesh.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1413 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:43 pm to
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His biggest mistake was listening to Ray Perkins for advice. During the season, they would speak weekly. When Mike was told he needed to jettison some of his staff or he might be fired, Perkins told him that Bama was bluffing, that they wouldn't dare fire him and that he should just musical chairs shuffle his staff around and not fire anyone.

Yeah. Solid advice there, Ray.


Let's all be thankful Shula listened to Perkins or we might not have gotten Saban. It all worked out for our greatest benefit.

THANK YOU RAY!!! THANK YOU MIKE FOR LISTENING TO RAY!!!
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10723 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 4:33 pm to
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I’ve written here before that I think Shula was the best placeholder between Stallings and Saban. No scandals. Won 10 games in 2005 and welcomed Urban Meyer to the SEC with a 31-3 beatdown. Would have probably won 10 games in 2004 if Brody Croyle doesn’t blow out his knee. Bama finished the year with a 3rd string QB, a 4th string RB and multiple freshmen starting.

He clearly wasn’t mean to be a great HC, but he’s an Iron Bowl legend and I’ll always hold him in high regard.


He gets unfairly maligned. We were in a lot of games and tended to get worn down. Because we were thin. What was it again? 21 scholarships over 3 years? It's why Fran ran. Dude doesn't deserve the disrespect he gets.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39211 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:42 pm to
Agreed. He was never going to take us to the Promised Land when things normalized, but I always think well of him.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1413 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:20 am to
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Agreed. He was never going to take us to the Promised Land when things normalized, but I always think well of him.


Agreed. Shula (in my opinion) was never going to win a national championship with Alabama once things normalized. Though he may be a good coordinator, he just didn't have what it took to be a championship-level head coach. But I greatly appreciate him coming in at the time he did and putting some form of stability to the program.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83269 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:33 pm to
Rough start for Shula and the Gamecocks.
Posted by jthomas666
Member since Jul 2008
623 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Bob Connelly specifically should have been fired.

Good ol' Bucket Step Bob.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3702 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:09 pm to
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Good ol' Bucket Step Bob.


I believe it was the summer of 2006 where someone on maybe TideFans posted about how their kid went to the football camp and when they were doing a Q&A session one of the campers asked Bob about why does Alabama not teach their OL how to block against the "bull rush" technique and Bob said something like "Well no one bull rushes anymore" and the kid said "Well I was at Auburn's camp last week and they spent a good amount of time showing us how to bull rush and how successful it was for them..." and that Connelly just stared blankly at the kid and said "Next question."
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
7025 posts
Posted on 9/22/25 at 1:10 pm to
I'll go ahead and be the Non-Revisionist when it comes to Mike.


His hiring wasn't some generous act of nobility.... it was a deal too good to pass up. Mike Shula was an average NFL assistant, nowhere near an SEC Head Coaching job, even for Kentucky, State or Vanderbilt. The fact that his alma mater, a 5 star prestige program, was as down in the dumps as is possible without the Death Penalty meant by sheer luck a massive opening came his way. Mike Shula had pretty much had nothing to do with the Tide since graduating and was now being offered a million dollar contract to coach at a gig where no one is going to turn up the pressure for years as probation can soak up any blame.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1583 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 2:55 pm to
You need to add NO ONE and I do mean NO ONE would touch the Alabama job other than maybe some Division II coach no one had ever heard of. Mike had enjoyed some minor success as an NFL assistant but was probably in over his head as the HC at Bama.

It didn't help he was taking some terrible advice from Ray Perkins.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
7025 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 9:50 am to
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You need to add NO ONE and I do mean NO ONE would touch the Alabama job other than maybe some Division II coach no one had ever heard of


There were 2 other candidates: all similar average NFL assistants who were alums, Sly Croom and Richard Williamson.

Williamson was closer to retirement than looking to man a rebuild, and Croom was pretty much like Mike, a guy who probably thought he was years away from head coaching any college team with a real brand.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83269 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
1583 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 12:06 pm to
Ouch. My son-in-law works on the NCAA compliance staff at USCe and he said there was a protest on campus a couple of weeks ago calling for him to be fired.

If it wasn’t for Sellers being such a freak athlete, South Carolina would be in even worse shape.
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