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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But I don't think we have any of those, do we?
Ellis is a rising senior, maybe he somehow can fall under that provision?
It feels like Nate has some kind of trick up his sleeve, but I don't know. We might just be losing a guy.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:53 pm to mistaken4193
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Somebody else said that Rojas could decline his redshirt year from 2019-2020 and play this year without needing a scholarship.
Not that we want that to happen
Unfortunately that does not solve our situation
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:53 pm to Teague
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It feels like Nate has some kind of trick up his sleeve, but I don't know. We might just be losing a guy.
Yea, I truly have no clue, but I do know that the staff does so.....guess we'll just have to let it play out.
Hope we aren't losing anybody and it's just a numbers trick.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Unfortunately that does not solve our situation
Poor Rojas.
He tried, damn it.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And while it’s a great problem to have, another point of discussion is that Oats is going to have a lot of talent next year and only so many minutes to go around. Gonna be interesting to see how he works out the rotations and handling guys who might not get as many minutes as they are expecting.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah, he is a junior and would be senior next year. It could be an option.
Most obvious choice, someone decides to pay his own way for the year and not take up a scholarship. The old voluntary withdrawal approach.
Most obvious choice, someone decides to pay his own way for the year and not take up a scholarship. The old voluntary withdrawal approach.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:20 pm to FWBFLlaw
"Most obvious choice, someone decides to pay his own way for the year and not take up a scholarship. The old voluntary withdrawal approach."
If that happens, the NCAA will be all up our arse looking for something.
If that happens, the NCAA will be all up our arse looking for something.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:24 pm to DT55Forever1
[quote]"Most obvious choice, someone decides to pay his own way for the year and not take up a scholarship. The old voluntary withdrawal approach."
Could Miles play a year in junior college, then come back as a junior. We will have several guards and wings leave after next year (Quinerly, Ellis, likely Primo and Davison), so Miles coming back then would be a great help.
Could Miles play a year in junior college, then come back as a junior. We will have several guards and wings leave after next year (Quinerly, Ellis, likely Primo and Davison), so Miles coming back then would be a great help.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:37 pm to AbSnopes
In my opinion Rojas & Miles will be the odd men out.
There are so many people ahead of Miles right now on the depth chart. Saying “he’ll be great by his junior year” makes it hard to believe he’ll ever play here. Nate is a recruiting machine and he’ll sign 6-7 more elite wings in the 2021/2022/2023 classes that will all pass Miles.
Miles & Rojas are gone.
There are so many people ahead of Miles right now on the depth chart. Saying “he’ll be great by his junior year” makes it hard to believe he’ll ever play here. Nate is a recruiting machine and he’ll sign 6-7 more elite wings in the 2021/2022/2023 classes that will all pass Miles.
Miles & Rojas are gone.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:50 pm to saban n bear
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In my opinion Rojas & Miles will be the odd men out.
There are so many people ahead of Miles right now on the depth chart.
I hate it. And I hate to agree with you. But... KAH has an easier path to the court right now than Miles. And who else would possibly leave?
Rojas is obviously the first guy out based on talent, position, etc., and I hate that for him as well. He came in with a lot of passion and did whatever was asked to try to help the team, but there are better options at 4 and 5 right now. I can’t see him playing at all next season. It does make me wonder if the ACL injury last year slowed him down or changed his game though.
Miles, while obviously super talented, is going to have an incredibly difficult time finding any situations to get into a game next year. There’s just too much talent and depth in front of him right now. He will likely be a fantastic player in two years, but is he going to wait that long?
Either way, I don’t like the options in front of us right now. Unless the staff has a rabbit in their hat, the roster numbers don’t work with Gurley. I stand by my original comment that I would rather keep what we have, even if we miss on Gurley, because I hate the alternatives. We have some good kids on the roster and I’d hate to see any of them shown the door this early, especially after the excitement of last season.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:51 pm to AbSnopes
That occasionally happens in football but I really can’t remember ever seeing that in basketball.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:06 pm to Bryant91092
I’d we do lose another guy this year, it seems extremely unlikely that we would get them back at any point in the future. Miles is a talented guy that could see some serious playing time at a lot of schools, so there’s really no reason for him to go the JUCO route. It would benefit Bama, but he has to do what’s best for him, which would be finding a spot with playing time at a decent program.
This is all Nimari’s fault. If he had committed to Bama the first time like he was supposed to, we wouldn’t be trying to clear an additional roster spot right now.
This is all Nimari’s fault.
If he had committed to Bama the first time like he was supposed to, we wouldn’t be trying to clear an additional roster spot right now. Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:07 pm to CaptainMorgan
Yeah, if it were me, I’d take Burnett and have Rojas transfer. And I would stand pat with that. But that’s only with the information I have available. I’m not Nate Oats, and I don’t have any insight into what guys are feeling about their future and their playing time, etc.
if Miles (for example) left on his own, then okay. I’d just be pissed if we pushed him out the door for a transfer.
if Miles (for example) left on his own, then okay. I’d just be pissed if we pushed him out the door for a transfer.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:08 pm to CaptainMorgan
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Either way, I don’t like the options in front of us right now. Unless the staff has a rabbit in their hat, the roster numbers don’t work with Gurley. I stand by my original comment that I would rather keep what we have, even if we miss on Gurley, because I hate the alternatives. We have some good kids on the roster and id hate to see any of them shown the door this early, especially after the excitement of last season.
The truth is that neither you nor anyone else posting here knows what the real situation is. Why do we continue to critique the staff based on "potentially" unsavory scenarios? Why not just wait until we actually know what is going on?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:18 pm to tattoo
Because this is a message board and if we weren’t discussing uncertainties and the unknown, it’d be boring as hell.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:35 pm to Bryant91092
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That occasionally happens in football but I really can’t remember ever seeing that in basketball.
Even in football it only happens when a guy lets his grades fall apart or gets into some kind of disciplinary trouble. I'd be stunned if there has ever been a case of a kid in good academic and legal standing voluntarily going to a JuCo just so his team could use his scholarship on someone else for a year before he came back.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:02 pm to tattoo
There's also always the possibility that someone wants to transfer somewhere to get more playing time. Forbes for instance probably would've played 15 minutes a game at Alabama last year, if that, and he transferred to Tulane, played 36 minutes a game and was pretty much their main offensive weapon.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:03 pm to CrimsonFever
I hate for any of these guys to be shown the door. It sucks, but this is a business now. I believe that Rojas will be the first to find a new team. The game just seemed too fast for him at this level. Plus, I’m not positive that he ever fully made it out of the doghouse.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:14 pm to Cobrasize
Question: who recruited each new signee? Oats get a lot of credit; deservedly so. But which assistant coach is getting it done behind the scenes?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:19 pm to reachup
Bediako was definitely Hogdson. I think Oats recruited Burnett.
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