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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:32 am to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:32 am to
Exactly. Kessler just took us out of a big part of our offense which is going to the rim, and Oats despises midrange shots so he ate us alive.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:26 am to
Kessler has very quick feet for someone his size. Quick feet are very important for defense. (or offense)
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6995 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:43 am to
Not to be that guy but actually his foot speed is not good, it hurts him on D.

quote:

“How Kessler stands out in the NBA in other facets of the game – even on defense just outside the paint – is a larger concern. His foot speed is slow. Getting him defending in space is a recipe for success. He blocks and affects shots even in some situations on the perimeter because of his closing speed and length, but how will his game translate to the NBA?”


glad he's gone
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:45 am to
Kessler's best trait, other than his unicorn physical stature, was his ability to block shots and defend the rim without ever fouling. He didn't lean, didn't bite on fakes, etc.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:04 am to
Yeah Kessler has very slow foot speed, will get targeted on high pick n rolls in the NBA. Dude was a legit 7 footer with mass and could camp the paint in college. Life will be difficult in the NBA.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Kessler's best trait, other than his unicorn physical stature, was his ability to block shots and defend the rim without ever fouling. He didn't lean, didn't bite on fakes, etc.


He always guards at the rim with his closest arm/hand. It makes his reach 3 to 6" longer and quicker at least, plus like Bill Russell, he doesn't try to swat the ball into the stands..he often rebounds his own block.
Posted by rushball
Member since Apr 2021
311 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Yeah Kessler has very slow foot speed, will get targeted on high pick n rolls in the NBA. Dude was a legit 7 footer with mass and could camp the paint in college. Life will be difficult in the NBA.


pretty much. we tore kessler up the first game because of that. still lost but it had nothing to do with him. the second one not so much, though there were too many issues to count in that one. protecting the rim is one thing, but being an actual good defender is another. hassan whiteside comes to mind as an example of that. the kid does have talent though and can shoot so, maybe hell end up doing some things.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6995 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:02 pm to
Kessler only played about 10 minutes in the first game, barely on the court.
Posted by rushball
Member since Apr 2021
311 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:58 pm to
well yes, because we fouled him out.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:32 pm to
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Dior Johnson, ESPN's No. 35 prospect in 2022, will decommit from Oregon and explore other college options, a source told ESPN. Oregon signed two veteran power-5 guards from the NCAA transfer portal and return starting PG Will Richardson, who entered the NBA draft.


Former target of ours.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Beginning next season, the NCAA will assess a Class B technical foul to players for flopping.

Players previously received a warning before being assessed a technical.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Alabama commit Sam Walters highlights from the Pangos All-American Camp!

Twitter - 48 seconds
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25538 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 7:17 am to
LINK

Pettway’s wife and son were bit by a copperhead. Damn
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:38 am to
That video was full of surprises:

1. It actually happened
2. It was actually a copperhead
3. She was reasonable about it

Not surprising:

1. The stock footage from the news station showed a timber rattlesnake for 90% of the video even though there was also a copperhead in it.

Glad to see there were no complications.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:02 am to
Woah
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:04 am to
Obviously imperfect and tough to gauge transfer impacts and freshmen, but still interesting to look through. If you click the link and then click a team it will breakdown the roster and the projections by player.



Torvik 2023 SEC Projections (interactive)


New SEC coaches did a heck of a job in the portal.



General overview from 2016 when he put together this general model for projection based around his stat website and advanced metrics

quote:

I've completely revamped the offensive projections, moving away from the prior "team based" model to an almost completely "player based" model. The old model, explained in detail below, was to look at past team performance, then adjust up or down based on the characteristics of the returning players. Now the model starts with projected player performance, and builds a team projection from that. One fun aspect of this is that I'm actually projecting core offensive player stats—offensive rating, usage, and minutes—and you can go look at those on the team pages at the T-Rank site.

Just a couple of team-based effects remain: (1) I've kept the "momentum" modifier for now, and (2) There is a coaching adjustment for teams who've hired a new coach in the last three years. Both of these are pretty ... stupid, I guess is the word—but I like them.

As with all of my T-Rank stuff, this is not to be taken seriously, and it's far from clear this is a "better" way to do things, given my fundamental incompetence. But I've always been convinced that this was the better way to project offensive performance, and Dan Hanner laid out the road map for this model long ago. This new model is basically my attempt to follow the steps he laid out then. Indeed, the compulsion mainly arose after realizing I now have the data and programming ability to do it.

So that's offense. As for defense, I think a team-based model is actually pretty good. In the blog post linked above, Dan Hanner says as much—though he links performance to coach rather than team. So for now I'm continuing with the exact same model as before, with one significant change: an effect based on the projected effective height (that is, height at the center and power forward positions), which is well-correlated with adjusted defensive efficiency.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:21 am to
I try to remain as unbiased as I can when looking at projections/predictions, but I'd bet my house on us being better than Florida. I'd place another hefty bet on us being better than A&M.

Question: how do they take into account recruiting classes (non-transfers)?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:25 am to
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Question: how do they take into account recruiting classes (non-transfers)?


If you click on the link and then click Alabama it's all broken out by player.

I think he gives them a conservative statline based on prior recruits that were ranked relatively close and the depth chart in front of them. Incoming freshmen are definitely the hardest to quantify, and since we will have 2 very good ones we are relying on it means we are probably a bit underrated (along with Arkansas).
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Former South Dakota head coach Todd Lee, who was terminated after winning 19 games last season, is headed to Arkansas to join Eric Musselman’s staff as a special assistant, source told @Stadium.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Torvik 2023 SEC Projections (interactive)


Have to think the reliance on freshmen is what has us lower. If we end up here, I'll see it as a disappointment. I think we have the roster to finish much better than this.
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