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Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:44 pm to mistaken4193
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:44 pm to mistaken4193
Downvotes don't make sense.
Didn't say I wanted it to be be Gary but if we pick up Burnett and Gurley, someone with Rojas has to go.
Just asking a question.
Didn't say I wanted it to be be Gary but if we pick up Burnett and Gurley, someone with Rojas has to go.
Just asking a question.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 3:45 pm
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:44 pm to mistaken4193
Gary improves his shot he can be a real stud, he can play the 4 or even a stretch 5 against certain lineups, a valuable man to have.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:49 pm to CaptainMorgan
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eventually you have to turn some guys away to keep the program healthy down the road.
100% this.
I would prefer Burnett over Gurley, but i'd gladly take either one. I don't want both though, because I would prefer that Rojas is the only one we have transfer out.
If we do have a second player transfer out, it would have to come down to Gary vs KAH for me. On the surface that would be a pretty easy call just based on what we saw this past season. But the formula I would use to ultimately make that decision would weigh more heavily towards potential than what either player has been able to do on the floor so far. One reason we are even able to consider that is because of how deep and talented we currently are. But still, I would want to optimize my roster as much as possible to achieve the greatest roster strength, health and flexibility as I could.
Gary is obviously a very good player, but what is he exactly? I know positions don't matter as much as they used to and they mean even less for us than they do most other teams - I get all that. But what exactly is Gary? What is Gary going to be on the 2021 roster? He's like 6'6" 218. We just signed Jusaun Holt - who is two years younger - and he's 6'6" 200-205 and a much more polished offensive player.
It would be great if Gary could play the three, but his game as it stands isn't built to do that very well. In fact, if you looked at all the players on the roster that could be a three in our type of system, Gary might actually be the worst from an offensive standpoint. He's not a good shooter, he's not a great passer, you don't want him dribbling much or creating a shot. He's athletic enough and an excellent defender and rebounder and that helps get him a bunch of easy garbage buckets and second chance points which is more in line with what you would want from the five. Gary had a lot of success at the five for us last season, but he didn't get any real meaningful time there (or anywhere really) until Bruner was hurt and Reese became more unhealthy than healthy.
As it stands now, 2021 big man minutes will have 6'11" Tchikou, 6'11" Bediako, 6'9" Wilson and 6'8" KAH at the very least. Gary is by far the smallest out of that group. Obviously height is not the only thing that matters, but 5" of height can make a ton of difference.
This is not me saying Gary sucks or even that i'd prefer he transfer instead of KAH (although I am still undecided on that which I almost can't even believe after the way Gary ended the season). I was initially just kind of thinking out loud about the options and somehow kept rambling long enough to make this obnoxiously long.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:53 pm to Chadaristic
I feel personally attacked.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:53 pm to DT55Forever1
You sir are not a member of the Bama Sunshine Club
make note
make note
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:56 pm to Chadaristic
Careful, Chad. I just got downvoted for saying a shortened version of the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:57 pm to Robot Santa
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I feel personally attacked.
I am sorry. It wasn't meant to be a Gary hate post.
More just trying to figure out where and how Gary and his skillset best fits on the floor relative to the rest of the roster around him.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:58 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
"You sir are not a member of the Bama Sunshine Club
make note"
noted
make note"
noted
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:01 pm to DT55Forever1
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Careful, Chad. I just got downvoted for saying a shortened version of the same thing.
Meh, my approval rating in these threads is always hovering around 50%.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:06 pm to Chadaristic
Same here.
I agree with what you said though. I was just trying to figure our how they would make the roster numbers work.
I got downvoted for talking about math I guess. :)
I agree with what you said though. I was just trying to figure our how they would make the roster numbers work.
I got downvoted for talking about math I guess. :)
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:07 pm to Chadaristic
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Penn State transfer Myreon Jones has committed to Florida.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:14 pm to Chadaristic
Tre Mann replacement I guess
I'm not so sure Burnett chooses Bama. One of the reasons he's leaving Tech is to be a starter. With our backcourt roster, not sure he would start.
I'm not so sure Burnett chooses Bama. One of the reasons he's leaving Tech is to be a starter. With our backcourt roster, not sure he would start.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:17 pm to Chadaristic
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I would prefer Burnett over Gurley, but i'd gladly take either one. I don't want both though, because I would prefer that Rojas is the only one we have transfer out.
Agree 100%. If we get Burnett tomorrow, we should stand pat. Gurley is really good, but Tchikou and Bediako with 4 years and Wilson with 3 have really good moves around the basket and are bigger. Tchikou and Wilson can shoot 3's too. Loved Rojas winning us a couple of games, but he 22 and will have a hard time getting minutes next year. Already we have maybe our best recruiting class overall ever, and I go back to early/ mid '70's as a student at Bama.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:32 pm to CrimsonFever
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I don't think KAH goes anywhere, he was Bediako's teammate and probably a main reason we got him. Don't see Miles going anywhere either. Really cant see anyone the staff encouraging anyone to transfer out right now other than Rojas, so I think we only add one more player.
Correct, according to "insiders" on BOL.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:40 pm to TidalSurge1
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I don't think KAH goes anywhere, he was Bediako's teammate and probably a main reason we got him. Don't see Miles going anywhere either. Really cant see anyone the staff encouraging anyone to transfer out right now other than Rojas, so I think we only add one more player.
Correct, according to "insiders" on BOL.
You love to see it
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:51 pm to Chadaristic
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More just trying to figure out where and how Gary and his skillset best fits on the floor relative to the rest of the roster around him.
I think a lot of that is going to come down to if he is able to develop a reasonably effective jump shot over the offseason. He was rehabbing all offseason last summer. Worst case scenario there is room on every roster at every level of basketball for an energy big who is all over the glass and can effectively defend multiple positions.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:55 pm to Robot Santa
LINK ]Who’s coming, going from Alabama basketball in 2021? (AL.com)
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Alabama men’s basketball is only 10 days removed from its season-ending loss to UCLA in Indianapolis, but the process of squaring away the team’s roster for next season is in full swing.
A major domino fell Tuesday when four-center Charles Bediako committed to Alabama over a list of other schools that included Duke. That propelled the Tide past the Blue Devils for the third-ranked 2021 recruiting class by 247 Sports.
Alabama could make another addition Thursday when Texas Tech transfer Nimari Burnett is expected to announce his choice. The Tide are one of seven schools in the mix for the 2020 McDonald’s All-American guard along with Auburn, LSU, Illinois, USC, Vanderbilt and Oregon.
And on Sunday, former Furman forward Noah Gurley will announced his transfer destination from a list of schools that includes Alabama, Auburn, Duke, Florida and Tennessee.
Bediako will fill Alabama’s 13th scholarship for the upcoming season, which is the NCAA’s limit. That means they would need to clear a scholarship in order to add Burnett or Gurley.
The national signing period for basketball begins next Wednesday, at which point Bediako is expected to sign his letter of intent to join Alabama.
Who else is part of Alabama’s expected roster next season? Here is a run down of their scholarship players:
Guards: Jahvon Quinerly, Josh Primo, JD Davison, Jaden Shackelford, Keon Ellis
Wings: Darius Miles, Jusaun Holt
Forwards/centers: Juwan Gary, James Rojas, Keon Ambrose-Hylton, Alex Tchikou, Charles Bediako, Langston Wilson
The Tide also has a pair of incoming freshmen on football scholarships, guards Ga’Quincy McKinstry and Terrion Arnold, who could contribute after football season.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:55 pm to TidalSurge1
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Here is what Oats said about the newcomers to the team next season other than Bediako, who has not officially signed:
Oats on Davison: “It is a priority for us to keep the best players in the Alabama coming to the University of Alabama. We all feel like JD is the best point guard in the country for the way we play. He is at his best when he is in the open floor and in transition. He can create off the dribble, make shots – especially clutch shots – and creates for his teammates. We felt like this was a match made in heaven with the way he plays and our style of play. We are really excited about JD because he’s an Alabama kid who’s been an Alabama fan his who life and wants to come here and take this program to the next level. We think he’s going to do just that.”
Oats on Holt: “We needed to find someone to replace John Petty who is one of the best shooters in the country and we felt like we went out and got one of the premier shooters in all of high school basketball in Jusaun Holt. We also love the fact that he is a two-way player. We want everyone we recruit to take the defensive end as serious as they take the offensive end and we feel he is certainly that way. We think he is one of the best two-way wings in the country. He comes from Atlanta and I know the last player we got from that area turned out pretty good in Collin Sexton. We want to keep that pipeline going. We’re ecstatic to get Jusaun and we think he is going to fit our style of play perfectly.”
Oats on Tchikou: “Alex is exactly the type of front court player we’re looking for in our system. He’s long and athletic with guard skills. He can shoot and play on the perimeter as a 6-11 wing while also adding rebounding and shot-blocking in the paint. Alex’s attitude and work ethic is outstanding and he has shown tremendous improvement in the past year. Alex has great upside and we’re confident he will fit in perfect with the gym rats we currently have in our program.”
Oats on Wilson: “We think Langston has a really high upside. He’s a gym rat, he’s long and athletic. He had a misdiagnosis in high school that kept him from playing basketball so he’s only played one year of organized basketball and we feel he has a tremendously high ceiling. We are looking forward to getting him in here next summer. His length and athleticism will add a lot to our team next season.”
The other aspect of Alabama’s offseason will be the NBA draft and its departing seniors. That group includes John Petty, Herb Jones, Alex Reese and Jordan Bruner.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 4:57 pm to Robot Santa
Will be interesting to see who is the odd man out if we land another player . I am fine with the roster we have BTW (assuming Rojas is only casualty as of now )
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:15 pm to DT55Forever1
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I got downvoted for talking about math I guess.
I'm a simple man. When I see math, I downvote. Hell, if I see 3 or more syllables in a post, I downvote.
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