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Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Coaching Carousel Grades: Evaluating Holloway, Miller, Payne Hires and More

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Mississippi State: Chris Jans

Mississippi State is a “roll up your sleeves” job, and few are better suited to do just that than Jans. Jans got his start as a junior college head coach who won big in small towns across the country before making the jump into D-I and standing out as an assistant under Gregg Marshall at Wichita State. Then, after an unceremonious departure at Bowling Green for inappropriate conduct, he became the latest coach to win big at New Mexico State, another job that requires scouring every avenue available to add talent. That tenure was capped by knocking off UConn in the NCAA tournament this March, just days before he officially departed for Starkville.

Would Jans have been the best coach for, say, Florida in this cycle? No. But so much of what makes hires succeed or fail is fit, and the fit between Jans and Mississippi State is perfect. I think he’s well equipped to get the most out of a program that is considered one of the trickiest places to win in the SEC.

Grade: A


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Georgia: Mike White

White parachuted within the SEC from Florida to Georgia after he had seemingly worn out his welcome in Gainesville. How you view his tenure with the Gators is essentially a Rorschach test for how you see the Florida job in the post–Billy Donovan era. White never finished worse than .500 in league play, would have reached five straight NCAA tournaments in a row heading into this past season if not for COVID-19 and won at least one game in all four Big Dances he made. He also recruited pro-level talent and went to an Elite Eight in 2017. But following the best coach a program has ever had is never easy, and White could never escape Donovan’s shadow.

Of course, Georgia hasn’t had nearly the success on the hardwood that Florida has had. If White was to accomplish exactly what he just accomplished at UF in Athens, it would be the most consistent run of success UGA has ever had. But how much harder is it to recruit and win at Georgia than Florida? I guess we’ll find out.

Grade: A-


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Florida: Todd Golden

There’s certainly some risk involved here for AD Scott Stricklin, who handed a top-20 program with national championship history to a 36-year-old with three years of head coaching experience and a 23–22 career record in the WCC. But Golden is universally lauded among industry insiders as a rising star in the profession, and what he was able to accomplish at San Francisco is far more impressive than his record indicates. He’s the first coach in two decades to bring a WCC team not named Gonzaga, BYU or Saint Mary’s to an at-large NCAA tournament berth, using an analytically savvy approach to build a winner at an under-resourced program.

The big question here is whether Golden can navigate the tricky recruiting waters of the SEC against powerhouses like John Calipari, Eric Musselman, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl and Nate Oats. Early transfer signings of Will Richard (Belmont) and Alex Fudge (LSU) are a somewhat encouraging sign on that front.

Grade: B+


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Missouri: Dennis Gates

Gates has been a hot commodity for high-major ADs in the last two cycles after winning a share of the Horizon League in consecutive seasons. His eventual destination: Missouri, where he’ll look to turn around a program that got stale late in Cuonzo Martin’s tenure. Gates made his name in the profession on Leonard Hamilton’s staff at Florida State, and his quick rebuilding job at Cleveland State in his first head coaching test made him a solid fit for pretty much any high-major program.

Gates is clearly an accomplished recruiter and got the most out of his teams at Cleveland State. My lone concern: None of his CSU teams even cracked the top 150 in KenPom. Gates will likely bring some energy to the Mizzou program and won’t go 12–21 like Martin did this season, but will he build good enough teams to go to the NCAA tournament regularly?

Grade: B-


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LSU: Matt McMahon

As mentioned above with Golden, the primary challenge for all these SEC hires is whether they can recruit against some of the sport’s best. McMahon has two further challenges: Walking into a gutted roster (all but two scholarship players departed) and the potential for significant NCAA sanctions following the notice of allegations that got former coach Will Wade fired. Those two reasons are why LSU gave McMahon a seven-year contract: This is a rebuilding situation.

McMahon built some tremendous teams at Murray State. He coached and recruited Ja Morant and won an NCAA tournament game with him, then rebuilt and put together a team this season that had the best record of any men’s D-I team and advanced to the second round of the tourney. But it is worth noting that, well, everyone has won at Murray State. Three of Murray’s five worst KenPom finishes in the last 25 years came with McMahon at the helm. Was he a product of a program that churns out high-major coaches or a true standout?

Grade: C+


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South Carolina: Lamont Paris

Paris parlayed a 27-win season in 2021–22 into a high-major job at South Carolina, which moved on from Frank Martin after six straight years without an NCAA tournament berth. Paris wasn’t the program’s first choice, as the Gamecocks took swings at Miller and McMahon before eventually landing on the Chattanooga coach to take over in Columbia.

The biggest thing Paris brought to the Mocs was some stability. He slowly built a program from three conference wins in his first season to 14 in his final one, a stark contrast to the quick flips pulled off by Wade (LSU) and Matt McCall (UMass), who moved on after two seasons each. But does Paris have enough recruiting firepower to really keep up in the SEC, especially in the NIL era? I have my doubts.

Grade: C



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Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Akot will be more appealing if we can get a proven shooter at the 2/3 as well.


I'm good with that. I wanted Nijel Pack as that proven shooter but he wants to run the PG where he goes.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Has anyone mentioned AJ Green from Northern Iowa? Averaged over 18/game with 7.7 three point attempts a game and shot 39% from three. He's 6'4". Might be a scoring guard option.


His dad is on the staff at Iowa State and he is expected to head there according to some of the experts.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:15 pm to
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His dad is on the staff at Iowa State and he is expected to head there according to some of the experts


Oh well. Another option off the table.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Illinois State transfer Antonio Reeves (@ToniooReeves) has picked up a crystal ball prediction for @KentuckyMBB via @247Sports. Reeves averaged 20/4/2 as a junior for the Redbirds.
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second crystal ball prediction is in for Kentucky. wouldn’t expect this to drag out much longer.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1151 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:31 pm to
Keep the faith guys. We have a very solid team of 11 players right now, or 10 until the January return for JQ. The coaches are going to be very selective for those last two spots, and they may not fill both spots because the days of having young players sit a year or play sparingly are over with the portal. Players have unti May 1 to enter the portal, June 1 to withdraw from the draft. There is plenty of time to make the right pick on a player who can play now, and though Bridges may turn out to be a super star at Baylor, there is lots of smoke from multiple sources that his visit here did not feel good to our coaches. I haven't heard Huggins complaining about Bridges leaving West Va either, and he was incresingly on the bench there.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25531 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:41 pm to
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hey may not fill both spots


That would be both dumb and a mistake.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1151 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:49 pm to
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That would be both dumb and a mistake.


Maybe, but I doubt our coaches want to sign just anybody to sit on the bench like Ambrose Hilton and Tchikou, who then they need to run off the next year.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:51 pm to
Plenty of 1 year guys out there who that isn't an issue with.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46262 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:52 pm to
I think taking a couple of gambles on low floor/high ceiling players is exactly how you want to fill out the end of the bench.

Or like George said, guys with one year of eligibility left. I think the problem we may be running into is that transfers don't want to come in and lose minutes to a freshman, and we have 4 of them coming in who all have a realistic chance at earning big minutes.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9074 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:18 pm to
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We have a very solid team of 11 players right now, or 10


We do but we don’t have a lot of P5 experience. Bridges was a pretty big miss. If these last two spots just turn into fill out the bench guys, expectations might need to be pulled back a little.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:21 pm
Posted by EGO x3
Member since Mar 2022
22 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:40 pm to
Yea I'm not sweating it. I mean I'd love to have gotten Bridges but no one should be panicking yet.

A lot of talented players will be in Crimson next season regardless and we're going to get one more quality player.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:40 pm to
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Blessed and thankful to have received an offer from Coach Oats and The University of Alabama.


Donny Freeman
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8930 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:53 pm to
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quote: Was just told he wasn’t quite a fit after the weekend visit. Their were some concerns and staff started looking in other directions. TFWIW.


Could it be NIL related? Maybe he wanted a certain $$ amount.

I’m a little worried that we haven’t figured out the NIL part for basketball, especially given the talk from the football side. Our football team offers a value proposition that might be able to overcome some discrepancies in NIL, but our Bball team doesn’t have that same clout. Arkansas’s success has to be Tyson foods & Walmart money stepping up, and these places like Arkansas, KY, or even Baylor don’t have quite the same focus on football. We better get our NIL game up to par, and quickly!
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:05 pm to
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Just in: Villanova’s Jay Wright — one of college basketball’s iconic coaches and a Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer — is seriously contemplating retiring this offseason, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Wright, 60, is meeting with his family and making final decision soon.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25531 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:06 pm to
We have a top 5 ranked incoming class so I don’t think NIL has slowed us down at all. I would also think whatever our football program does would be athletic department wide.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25531 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:12 pm to
Now everything says he’s retiring. Wow
Posted by TrojanTide
Member since Mar 2021
2203 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:14 pm to
Was just about to come in here and post he’s retiring.

WOW
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
5121 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:15 pm to
BamaBraves calm down... overreacting a little.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25531 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:15 pm to
Who takes the role now as not only the best coach in college basketball, but also best dressed and overall best looking? Wright was tGOAT in every aspect.
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