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Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:40 am to
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:40 am to
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Bediako, Gurley, Burnett, and Miles return


Sounds about right and honestly how it should be.

So we are looking at 4 portal guys if that’s the case
Posted by YellaDog
Member since Mar 2022
441 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:13 am to
Man I’m hyped about Jaden Bradley. Dude is a dog.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46064 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:22 am to
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So we are looking at 4 portal guys if that’s the case


Love Aimiq, like Llewellyn, kinda meh on the other two we have been in contact with. But obviously a ton more will be entering the portal over the next couple of weeks. I'm sure Aimiq will end up at Gonzaga unfortunately. He's from Vancouver.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30905 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:10 am to
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If Ninari comes out as a leader then we will have him and Shack as our go to guys with the 2 elite freshman coming in. I like it.

Sorry, but Shackleford is no part of a leader. When his shot's not going, he disappears, plus he can't guard a fire hydrant.
The portal's our best hope for some true leadership.
PS- Did you watch Miami last night?
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
8706 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:16 am to
Anybody else surprised at how poorly the SEC performed in the tournament?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46064 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:22 am to
No. The top 4 teams were Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn, and UTk. Us and LSU were always going to be one and done. Auburn has been fading hard for weeks and Rick Barnes coached teams always fall apart in the tournament though. Arkansas has played some shitty basketball but got a beneficial draw. Kentucky is the only one kind of surprising.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105708 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:24 am to
Agreed. Only really surprised by Kentucky. Tennessee got a tough draw with a reinvigorated Michigan in round 2. Auburn has been cheeks away from home for 6 weeks. We all know our situation.

Arkansas found ways to win, so more power to them, but their draw was (once again) extremely advantageous.

Kentucky losing that game is unreal.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29638 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:42 am to
I would put Saint Peters beating UK right behind Virginia losing to UMBC as biggest upset in tournament history. Maybe even above because at least Virginias best player was hurt if I remember correctly
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by YellaDog
Member since Mar 2022
441 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:48 am to
Ugh I hope the freshman just come in and mesh well. Can’t watch another season where our players have no chemistry.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3107 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:56 am to
The problem with assuming Nimari will a leader is that he was on the team this year, at most of the practices and on the bench, and we still didn't have a leader.

I know he wasn't playing but he could have helped in that area and didn't see it. To my knowledge, he wasn't at the pre NCAAT game shooting sessions or didn't bring players to it. A leader would have had guys there.

Maybe he will turn into a leader on the team, but we don't know right now.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3107 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:02 am to
quote:

think JD will return but it will all depend on where he's slotted in the draft.


He needs to come back from a skill level, but if he does, what does he come back as? He's probably the back up PG with Bradley coming in and he would be behind Burnett as the SG. If he decides to come back, he's probably a back up.


I see JD's agent is down voting again.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by TiderinVa
Hampton, Virginia
Member since May 2018
850 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:19 am to
Yep he is and hes also steady and had iq on the floor .. doesnt mean he wont make mistakes but i think hes what we needs. I hear people say u cant lean too heavily on freshmen but times have changed. The staff recruited these kids for a reason and that means they know what the staff expects. A new fresh group will come hungry to be coached and to win.
Posted by TiderinVa
Hampton, Virginia
Member since May 2018
850 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:28 am to
Sometimes a guy can only do so much when hes not playing. Every time i saw nimari he was talking to guys and leading the pregame group circles. Vocal encouragement is all he could provide , this team didnt always respond to that. Its kind of like with gurley , he and nimari were new to the program and its not easy to lead when youre the new guys on a team that had won the year before. He and gurley will have more of that ownership next year and i think theyll be more empowered since theyll be 2 of the upperclassmen.
Posted by TiderinVa
Hampton, Virginia
Member since May 2018
850 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:32 am to
U cant expect a team to respond to portal guys unless those guys have won something. Nimari will have more equity i think because (a) je came from a winning program and (b) he actually get to be on the floor next year.
Posted by GeneralWoundwort
Warrior
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:38 am to
"Sorry, but Shackleford is no part of a leader. When his shot's not going, he disappears, plus he can't guard a fire hydrant.
The portal's our best hope for some true leadership.
PS- Did you watch Miami last night?"

You are correct. This team had zero leadership. This is certainly magnified by the fact we also seem to have zero discipline. The turnover issue was never rectified. We consistently put the other team in the double bonus in both halves because of our reckless fouls. We displayed horrible basketball IQ as a team consistently. I also found it especially troubling that our head coach stated publicly that our recently departed s/c coach handled team discipline.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:49 am to
When you have the right surrounding pieces then you will see. He's a 1 not a 2 don't overthink it. He's a pass first point guard and he played really good against Notre Dame. He has an opportunity to lead this team next season and JD will have the right pieces to be successful.

JD has a decision to make and I pray everything works out well for him.
Posted by TiderinVa
Hampton, Virginia
Member since May 2018
850 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:50 am to
Hows that disturbing? Pretty easy to understand... U do something wrong the S&C conditioning coach is gonna have u running the arena steps or something grueling in weightroom until u puke.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105708 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:53 am to
quote:

The problem with assuming Nimari will a leader is that he was on the team this year, at most of the practices and on the bench, and we still didn't have a leader.

I know he wasn't playing but he could have helped in that area and didn't see it. To my knowledge, he wasn't at the pre NCAAT game shooting sessions or didn't bring players to it. A leader would have had guys there.

Maybe he will turn into a leader on the team, but we don't know right now.


You can't be a leader who pulls a team the direction you want them to go if you aren't also one of the better players on the floor. There are very few examples of individual team leaders who weren't also key parts of a team on the floor/field.

Not to mention Nimari had literally never played 1 second of one game in Crimson. Not sure what exactly the expectation is for a guy who has been in sweats on the 2nd row all year long.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 11:04 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105708 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:56 am to
quote:

He's a pass first point guard and he played really good against Notre Dame


He was obliterated defensively, had 4 passes tipped that easily could have been turnovers, missed 3 shots at the rim and essentially put the nail on the coffin with an absolutely awful cross court pass that was turned into a dunk on the other end. He had 6 turnovers. His turnover rate was 40%. That'd frickin horrid, not good.

You are just wrong on him. Agree to disagree or whatever, and hopefully he figures it out, but he stunk this season. He wasn't good, he wasn't consistent, he turned the ball over at a literal historical rate, he looked lost and the game was way, way, way too fast for him.

He wasn't in the same stratosphere as Kennedy Chandler, Zakai Zeigler or TyTy Washington.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 11:01 am
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40967 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:01 am to
quote:

“Bediako, Gurley, Burnett, and Miles return. Gary’s status up in the air still. Everyone else is expected to leave or be shown the door”.

From a dude who’s pretty dang connected and a very solid source with this comment on the team on BOL.


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