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Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
Our game against Houston will be on December 11th.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Oats on Rojas: "Rehab is going great."
I'm not trying to be mean and ugly, but where is he gonna fit into Oats' scheme?....hatchet man?
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

I'm not trying to be mean and ugly, but where is he gonna fit into Oats' scheme?


"Point forward like Scottie Pippen."

- James Rojas


Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Emoni Bates, the No. 5 overall prospect in the 2021 class, is expected to make his announcement tomorrow, sources tell @247Sports.


Memphis is the heavy favorite.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18086 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:06 pm to
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Joseph Tipton
@TiptonEdits
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2022 four-star Rodney Rice has turned down an offer from the Overtime Elite league, he tells
@On3Recruits
.



I know he probably isnt gonna come here but posting because it seems like most of the prospects are turning down the G league/Overtime/ type offers now that NIL exists.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:13 pm to
The NIL is a game changer. Especially, for the blue bloods. Oats and Bama have to start making a name for ourselves. We gotta keep Oats, which I believe he enjoys it down here, and a few more solid seasons and classes, and we might be on our way. Just need to keep upward trajectory
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:51 pm to
Yeah it is. Those who seem to be benefitting the most so far in college basketball are Oregon and Penny Hardaway, who both obviously have very strong Nike connections. I like the NIL better than the alternative though, I like seeing the best players actually play in college instead of going to the G league ect.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:03 pm to
I thought the Gleague was going to steal a bunch of players. I also thought that it would lead them down a path to nowhere. That money is hard to turn down, but they just want results and not development. They’ll develop to a point, but after that, you’re screwed with no college connections
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:34 pm to
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it seems like most of the prospects are turning down the G league/Overtime/ type offers now that NIL exists.


Idk about that. They've signed around seven or eight 5*'s (or would be) from the 21-23 classes already and are expected to land several more.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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49884 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:39 pm to
Well, shite
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Idk about that. They've signed around seven or eight 5*'s (or would be) from the 21-23 classes already and are expected to land several more.


Didn't a 4 star get half a million the other day too
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25130 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:46 am to
G-league makes a lot of sense. They're paying big money, and they get to develop with guys that were great college players. Better competition and full time training.

I could even see Australia being a great option, if not for covid.

Overtime Elite is the one I can't figure out. With nil, there's only so many elite recruits to go around.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:47 am to
I don't think it's going to be black or white either way. Some kids will want to do it for various reasons, other will want to play in college for various reasons.

Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:52 am to
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Overtime Elite is the one I can't figure out. With nil, there's only so many elite recruits to go around.


Overtime Elite makes no sense to me at all, NIL or no NIL. If some 16-17 year old kid goes that route and it doesn't work out they have zero fallback options. None. They won't be eligible to go back to a normal high school, they won't be eligible for college basketball, and no pro team for adults is going to want them.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:26 am to
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I don't think it's going to be black or white either way. Some kids will want to do it for various reasons, other will want to play in college for various reasons.


Yep and how it should be imo
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1140 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I'm not trying to be mean and ugly, but where is he gonna fit into Oats' scheme?....hatchet man?


If we need some harchet work inside, Rojas can deliver. He's like a "bull in a china shops" sometimes, but the coaches really seem to like his toughness.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1140 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Overtime Elite makes no sense to me at all, NIL or no NIL. If some 16-17 year old kid goes that route and it doesn't work out they have zero fallback options. None. They won't be eligible to go back to a normal high school, they won't be eligible for college basketball, and no pro team for adults is going to want them.


It will be interesting to follow the Dashien Nix story. A top 2020 recruit who went G League but was not drafted. All you said happened. I did see he resigned with the G League, but...
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 12:23 pm to
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Dashien Nix


He just got an exhibit 10 deal from the Rockets, so maybe he can earn a two way contract this year.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46194 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 12:38 pm to
My question, and it's mostly a philosophical one, is how young is too young for it to be OK for these pseudo-agents and professional league representatives to offer money to a kid? Because that's really my main concern. Offering 6 figures to a 16 year old is incredibly coercive. And what is the plan for the guys who don't work out? Going back to school is only an option if they're giving up basketball. Going pro at 19 isn't a serious option if they struggled at 17 and 18. So are they just screwed and out on the street with a high school "diploma" that isn't worth the paper it's printed on and zero life or job skills?
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
18086 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Idk about that. They've signed around seven or eight 5*'s (or would be) from the 21-23 classes already and are expected to land several more.


They did in the 2021 class before NIL existed.

What 5 stars have they signed in the 22' or 23' class? I may have missed some.

ETA:

NVM I remember some now, Scoot Henderson, Mikey Williams ect. They will get their share, but more seem to be staying in college so far than in the '21 class, we will see how it plays out.




This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:52 pm
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