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Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
Correct me if I'm wrong but MSU and Syracuse aren't known for hiring big names? Boehem alone has been at Syracuse for half a century right? 
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
I don't see that happening. As long as we have a competent AD, then I won't fret about what happens tomorrow. Some great mid major coaches out there but apparently these bigger programs are too good to give them a look....smh
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:41 am to RollTide4Ever
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As long as we have a competent AD, then I won't fret about what happens tomorrow
I'm 100% with you. If he leaves it won't be for lack of us trying with Byrne around, and I'm not worrying about it.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:41 am to RollTide4Ever
Going to be interesting what happens after the end of next year, his son will be done with CBB and seems like perfect timing for him to call it quits
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:42 am to RollTide4Ever
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Correct me if I'm wrong but MSU and Syracuse aren't known for hiring big names? Boehem alone has been at Syracuse for half a century right?
They aren't known for hiring anyone
Izzo has been at MSU as head coach since 1995 when he took over for his boss Jud Heathcote, who had been there since 1976.
Boeheim has been at Syracuse since 1976 when he took over for his boss Roy Danforth who had been at Syracuse since 1968.
So, basically, neither MSU or Syracuse has had a true search for a head coach in 40+ years.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'd eliminate Syracuse from the list. Boeheim is already holding them hostage at this point regarding a retirement time line and he almost exclusively hires his former players for his staff. I'd be stunned if he doesn't essentially force them to promote one of his assistants.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:47 am to Robot Santa
And with Beard leaving Kyler Edwards, Texas Tech's leader in BPM and Offensive Rating amongst players with > 25% minutes played, announces he is transferring.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:49 am to Robot Santa
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Boeheim is already holding them hostage at this point regarding a retirement time line and he almost exclusively hires his former players for his staff. I'd be stunned if he doesn't essentially force them to promote one of his assistants.
If Mike Hopkins hadn't been so bad the last two years, I think he would be the easy choice
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:49 am to rockiee
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If Mike Hopkins hadn't been so bad the last two years, I think he would be the easy choice
Yep - definitely seemed like a loose plan there. But then, WOOF.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:53 am to Gary Busey
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If I'm UNC, I'm going after Porter Moser.
I would be pretty shocked if it was a guy like Moser.
I could be overrating the importance of this, but I think UNC cares about playing a certain way, in addition to winning. They want to play a high scoring, up-tempo style. That's what their fans are used to.
Now they would abandon those principles for a guy like Tony Bennett, I'm sure, but not Porter Moser.
Long-term I think Oats' style of play and brashness would be appealing to a UNC, Kentucky type of school. Hopefully it's not that appealing.
ETA: luckily he's not part of the UNC "family." I think that probably still matters to them too.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 10:55 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I just don't really see any other jobs that smack me in the face as "oh shite he might take that".
I think an offer from UNC would certainly get heavy consideration from him, and frankly I'm extremely worried they're going to come after him if they haven't already.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:03 am to Crede15
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I could be overrating the importance of this, but I think UNC cares about playing a certain way, in addition to winning. They want to play a high scoring, up-tempo style. That's what their fans are used to.
Now they would abandon those principles for a guy like Tony Bennett, I'm sure, but not Porter Moser.
I mean, Dean Smith made Tony Bennett's offense look like the Showtime Lakers, so older UNC fans have seen both ends of the spectrum be successful there.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:26 am to Robot Santa
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I could be overrating the importance of this, but I think UNC cares about playing a certain way, in addition to winning. They want to play a high scoring, up-tempo style. That's what their fans are used to.
Now they would abandon those principles for a guy like Tony Bennett, I'm sure, but not Porter Moser.
I mean, Dean Smith made Tony Bennett's offense look like the Showtime Lakers, so older UNC fans have seen both ends of the spectrum be successful there.
That's a fair point. Feels like post-rule changes (no more four corners offense) Dean Smith teams were relatively fast-paced, but I could be wrong about that. It's been a while.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:29 am to The Spleen
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I think an offer from UNC would certainly get heavy consideration from him, and frankly I'm extremely worried they're going to come after him if they haven't already.
Right, but I was working off the "in a few years" assumption (meaning UNC was filled this year).
I just don't think Oats has enough of a track record at this point to buck the "inside the UNC family" trend. I think that would only work for a Few, Stevens type hire - not a guy with 1 pretty good season at the high major level.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Right, but I was working off the "in a few years" assumption (meaning UNC was filled this year).
Gotcha. I only jumped on this last page so probably missed the context of the conversation.
My friend that's a UNC grad says they'll likely promote from within, or bring a former assistant back. He didn't really have a feel who that might be though.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:36 am to The Spleen
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My friend that's a UNC grad says they'll likely promote from within, or bring a former assistant back. He didn't really have a feel who that might be though.
From what Carolina folks are saying on the internets they seem to think Roy wouldn't have retired without a specific plan in place and that the plan probably is Hubert or Miller. But who knows.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
My money is on Hubert or Stackhouse. I actually think Stackhouse would recruit pretty well there since pretty much anyone can recruit well there, but he'd get sideways with the administration and fanbase within like 6 months because he's such a colossal a-hole.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:46 am to elposter
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and Auburn is good again.
I follow CBB well beyond Auburn and have barely watched a game. I'm arguably as big a Zona / Georgetown fan as I am an Auburn fan. It is just my sports following & interest whether college/pro has waned a lot since COVID rolled around. Not sure I'll ever be as passionate as I was
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No worries, we know you’ll be back on the regular to converse when Alabama is bad
I have never been shy about my belief that Auburn benefits most when Alabama basketball team. Still, I came to congratulate you on a great season. 26-7, Conf + Conf T champs and Sweet 16? That's incredible, especially in only Yr2 with a promising future.
I know there are a lot of die hard fans in this thread who've been waiting for some results. I'm genuinely happy for them, it is what makes being a sports fan fun.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:50 am to GenesChin
Also, I was always pretty positive about the Oatz N Hoez hire. I've genuinely been pretty pro/optimistic Alabama basketball other than saying Avery Johnson sucked as a coach. He had pieces to play the Mick Cronin suffocating defense 45-42 W type games but instead just potatoed
I've been a Herbie "The Volkswagon" Jones truther for a long time even when people here sh*t on him. I still think he underachieved to be honest and hope my Suns take a flyer on him as a development 2way / RD2 guy.
I've been a Herbie "The Volkswagon" Jones truther for a long time even when people here sh*t on him. I still think he underachieved to be honest and hope my Suns take a flyer on him as a development 2way / RD2 guy.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:23 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Only jobs out there that worry me is Duke and UK. Duke doesn't seem like an Oats program, and UK will hopefully find another Italian American coach from northeast to fall in love with when the time comes.
I would also be very concerned whenever the Michigan State job comes open. That's seems like an obvious fit for Oates given his ties in the state of Michigan.
I wouldn't rule out North Carolina either. It's an extremely attractive job being one of the elite blue blood programs and a great area to live. I just don't UNC will hire Oates at this point in his career. They're likely to either shoot for a huge name like Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan or keep it in the family with a Jerry Stackhouse, Hubert Davis, or Wes Miller hire.
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