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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:41 am to BigBird09
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:41 am to BigBird09
Also, I don't want Carr. Everything I've heard is that he doesn't play defense and takes horrible shots. He looks to me like a more inefficient Shack with no defensive effort. Of course maybe he thrives in a better offensive system and actually tries on defense, but we don't really need someone who wants to be the go-to guy. We need someone that knows their role.
I want Tareq Coburn. Shot 40% from 3 on 6.5 attempts, plays defense, and he's also a 6'5" wing instead of another PG which is exactly what we need. I'm hoping this was the guy rumored to be waiting on the decision to drop. In this scenario, it's a clear upgrade to me in terms of fit.
I want Tareq Coburn. Shot 40% from 3 on 6.5 attempts, plays defense, and he's also a 6'5" wing instead of another PG which is exactly what we need. I'm hoping this was the guy rumored to be waiting on the decision to drop. In this scenario, it's a clear upgrade to me in terms of fit.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:45 am
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:44 am to BigBird09
Yeah Carr doesn’t make sense here the more I think about it. He is a PG and we already have 2. Oats probably wants a CG who can play the 2/3.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:49 am to mistaken4193
Leave it to the FOGs on BOL and twitter to say “ Well we got Kool-Aid and Terrion Arnold”
THEY AINT GONNA PLAY
THEY AINT GONNA PLAY
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:51 am to mistaken4193
Losing Shack is a gut punch. Oof.
Having your dad talk for you in a piss-poor look though. Own your reasons and move on. Wish him the best otherwise, seems like a good kid.
Having your dad talk for you in a piss-poor look though. Own your reasons and move on. Wish him the best otherwise, seems like a good kid.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:52 am to mistaken4193
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Leave it to the FOGs on BOL and twitter to say “ Well we got Kool-Aid and Terrion Arnold”
THEY AINT GONNA PLAY
I'm so tired of hearing about them already. I would love to see them on the court because that would mean we're up 30+ points in the 2nd half but this isn't a roster from 5 years ago.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:55 am to mistaken4193
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Yeah Carr doesn’t make sense here the more I think about it. He is a PG and we already have 2. Oats probably wants a CG who can play the 2/3.
Agree with you and BigBird on Carr maybe not being who we need. A couple of interesting guys already mentioned are Keith Williams from Cincinnati and Cedric Russell from Louisiana Ragin Cajuns. Most good players in the portal have already found a new school, but these guys are recent. Williams is 6'5" 215 and from NY. Wonder if Oats and Hodgson knew him from 4 years ago? Don't know of a connection with Coburn and Russell.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:57 am to TheNameIsDalton
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I would love to see them on the court because that would mean we're up 30+ points in the 2nd half but this isn't a roster from 5 years ago.
My guess is that they play with them in the off-season and quickly realize they don't belong and are wasting their efforts on a sport that isn't their calling. If this was a Grant team that's heading into the season with 10 scholarship players then maybe they get some run. It's not happening in our current situation.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:58 am to mistaken4193
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Leave it to the FOGs on BOL and twitter to say “ Well we got Kool-Aid and Terrion Arnold”
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:59 am to BigBird09
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My guess is that they play with them in the off-season and quickly realize they don't belong and are wasting their efforts on a sport that isn't their calling. If this was a Grant team that's heading into the season with 10 scholarship players then maybe they get some run. It's not happening in our current situation.
Probably with Kool-Aid.
Terrion has the potential and skill to be a P6 player. I just don’t think he will have enough time to develop because of Football
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:02 am to mistaken4193
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Leave it to the FOGs on BOL and twitter to say “ Well we got Kool-Aid and Terrion Arnold”
THEY AINT GONNA PLAY
Kool-aid is just a more athletic version of your typical wall-on in terms of basketball skills. Arnold is a pretty legit basketball player though. He probably could have gone to a D1 mid-major on a basketball scholarship if that had been what he wanted to do.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:02 am to mistaken4193
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2022 five-star Anthony Black is one of the fastest rising prospects.
In the past 10 days… Duke, Memphis, and Kansas have all offered.
Alabama, Arizona, and Georgia all offered as well during the @PangosAACamp, he tells @On3Recruits.
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Other offers: Baylor (where pops played), Auburn, Texas, Minnesota, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, TCU, Arkansas, Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, NC State, Iowa St, Creighton, Illinois.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:09 am to mistaken4193
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Terrion has the potential and skill to be a P6 player. I just don’t think he will have enough time to develop because of Football
He may be better than Kool-Aid, but I can't find a single basketball recruiting ranking or even a profile. He's not getting any meaningful PT even if he committed to basketball full-time.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:15 am to BigBird09
To be clear, I really haven’t seen much (or any) of most of the guys, but Coburn seems to make some sense from a statistical profile.
Really good shooter and big enough to not be a liability on defense (even though his advanced stats don’t seem to indicate that he’s especially good on that end).
Advanced defensive stats are sort of sketchy sometimes, but it’s all I have to go on with some of these guys, and Russell seems like he might be an actively bad defender. He’s also not much of a playmaker.
Playmaking would seem to be the big argument for Carr. Doesn’t seem like a natural fit, but it’s always good to have as many guys as possible that can dribble and pass.
This is a lot of words to say I don’t know shite about most of these guys. I’ll trust the staff.
Really good shooter and big enough to not be a liability on defense (even though his advanced stats don’t seem to indicate that he’s especially good on that end).
Advanced defensive stats are sort of sketchy sometimes, but it’s all I have to go on with some of these guys, and Russell seems like he might be an actively bad defender. He’s also not much of a playmaker.
Playmaking would seem to be the big argument for Carr. Doesn’t seem like a natural fit, but it’s always good to have as many guys as possible that can dribble and pass.
This is a lot of words to say I don’t know shite about most of these guys. I’ll trust the staff.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:23 am to Crede15
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This is a lot of words to say I don’t know shite about most of these guys. I’ll trust the staff.
Yeah, even if we go with Carr, I'll trust that the staff knows what they're doing and believes they can extract his full potential. Coburn just makes the most sense as to what we need and what we do.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:30 am to BigBird09
My guess is we don’t have much to “worry” about with Carr. I know these guys are mostly wired to be confident, but I don’t know why a PG would be dying to transfer in.
And if we get Russell it’s simply another sign that defensive box plus minus and defensive win shares are fundamentally flawed metrics created by nerds for nerds. RTR.
And if we get Russell it’s simply another sign that defensive box plus minus and defensive win shares are fundamentally flawed metrics created by nerds for nerds. RTR.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:42 am to mistaken4193
I will maintain that I don’t believe Losing Shack is a very big deal. I’d like to get a replacement shooter, that doesn’t have a history of injuries.
This pisses me off. In my opinion, Shack took too many shots. Many of which, were out of control
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Jordan Harper said it was Shacks dads decision and Now Wimp just said on radio that Shackelfords dad doesn’t feel “he is getting enough shots”
This pisses me off. In my opinion, Shack took too many shots. Many of which, were out of control
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:01 am to Chadaristic
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Yep, that's it.
JQ will probably go up a little.
Ellis should and Miles could have significant increases.
Gary will increase as well, how much depends on how his shot develops.
KAH - you would expect an increase from 1.1 obviously, but it will really come down to playing time with him. I'm still not sure how much time I really think he's going to get yet.
JD and Gurley are probably going to be double digit scorers.
Tchikou could easily be a double digit scorer when he's back to 100% and can maintain his health.
Bediako is another guy that might be able to consistently contribute offensively, even if it is mostly put backs and lobs.
Nimari is little bit of a wild card, I guess. I think he will definitely contribute offensively, but how much depends on how well he ends up shooting the three ball.
Holt - This may sound crazy (and maybe it is), but I think if Holt had the exact same usage as Shack, he would be able to replicate all or most of Shack's numbers. He's considered a better outside shooter right now than Shack was at this juncture, but he's also 6'6" so he should be able to attack the rim on drives instead of tossing up some of the prayer layups that Shack was forced to try. Holt isn't going to get anywhere near that type of run, but I do think he would be capable of filling that role.
And we are still going to add another body. I would have to assume that Oats will bring in a guy that he feels is ready to contribute this year and has some ball handling and shooting ability.
Excited to see how it shakes out
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:01 am to Cobrasize
Yeah of all the reasons for him to transfer, "not getting enough shots" is maybe the dumbest shite I could possibly think of. His dad must be the dumbest, shittiest stage parent imaginable.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:02 am to Cobrasize
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Shack took too many shots. Many of which, were out of control
my thoughts exactly!
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:06 am to crimsontater
I say we just go ahead and work some magic and get Shaedon Sharpe to reclass.
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