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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:48 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:48 am to Chadaristic
JQ, Gary, and Keon are all dogs. I like them being the nucleus of this team. It tells me they will be tough AF.
Still need to add another shooter.
Still need to add another shooter.
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:55 am to DT55Forever1
status over substance
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:16 am to Crede15
Agreed. Sucks to lose Shack as I really did like him, but if we can find a shooter who doesn’t have to take 15 shots a game and plays better than average defense, I see it as a net positive.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:26 am to RumHam
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That’s it?
Yep, that's it.
JQ will probably go up a little.
Ellis should and Miles could have significant increases.
Gary will increase as well, how much depends on how his shot develops.
KAH - you would expect an increase from 1.1 obviously, but it will really come down to playing time with him. I'm still not sure how much time I really think he's going to get yet.
JD and Gurley are probably going to be double digit scorers.
Tchikou could easily be a double digit scorer when he's back to 100% and can maintain his health.
Bediako is another guy that might be able to consistently contribute offensively, even if it is mostly put backs and lobs.
Nimari is little bit of a wild card, I guess. I think he will definitely contribute offensively, but how much depends on how well he ends up shooting the three ball.
Holt - This may sound crazy (and maybe it is), but I think if Holt had the exact same usage as Shack, he would be able to replicate all or most of Shack's numbers. He's considered a better outside shooter right now than Shack was at this juncture, but he's also 6'6" so he should be able to attack the rim on drives instead of tossing up some of the prayer layups that Shack was forced to try. Holt isn't going to get anywhere near that type of run, but I do think he would be capable of filling that role.
And we are still going to add another body. I would have to assume that Oats will bring in a guy that he feels is ready to contribute this year and has some ball handling and shooting ability.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:27 am to CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:31 am to Chadaristic
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What was two months ago a roster one scholarship heavy for the upcoming season now has a late scholarship opening.
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“[Shackelford] had some interviews and workouts with teams, and we’re just pulling for him to really do what’s best for him,” Oats said earlier Wednesday. “I think it’s good he’s been able to go through, get the feedback -- let’s find out what they’re looking for to make you a pro, and if we can help turn you into a pro, let’s do that. He’s our leading returning scorer. We like Shack a lot.”
At 6-foot-3, Shackelford’s height could be holding him back in contrast to that of Primo, who measured 6-foot-5 at the combine.
“He’s maybe not as along as those other three guys who got the combine invite,” Oats said. “Let’s control what you can control. You can’t control how tall you get, but let’s control how tough you are, how well you handle the ball, how consistent you make shots, and let’s work on the stuff the NBA would like to see more of. Let’s make you a better prospect, and let’s see if we can get you playing in there at some point in the future.”
Maybe he was just being reticent, but it really did sound like Oats was expecting Shack back to me.
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:33 am to Bryant91092
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but if we can find a shooter who doesn’t have to take 15 shots a game and plays better than average defense, I see it as a net positive.
My hunch is that Burnett will be this, but his shooting was so bad last year it's far from a given. In any event we need another guard. There are only 3 true guards on the roster right now, which I'm not really comfortable with. I love Miles and Ellis. I think they're both going to play in the NBA one day. I don't want them running the offense for 10-15 minutes per game for 2 weeks during conference play if JQ sprains his ankle.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:37 am to DT55Forever1
Yeah, there were a few that thought he didn't have a chance, but it looks like he's put himself in a good position.
I really, really hope he does go round one.
I really, really hope he does go round one.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:37 am to Robot Santa
You got JD too
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:38 am to Chadaristic
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Maybe he was just being reticent, but it really did sound like Oats was expecting Shack back to me.
He put his name in the portal in the dead of the night about an hour before the deadline. I think he probably did them dirty, but if he did I'd imagine Oats won't mince words over it so we will have an idea soon.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:47 am to Bear88
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You got JD too
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:50 am to Chadaristic
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With money now on the table, Alabama athletes in recent weeks have posted messages to their social media accounts inviting contact about business deals.
But which have the most followers and the most leverage for potential income?
That list begins not with a football player but with junior men’s basketball guard Jahvon Quinerly, who appears to top Tide athletes in both Instagram followers (450,000) and Twitter followers (38,600). That is more than five times the Instagram followers of any Alabama football player and double the top football player’s followers on Twitter.
Part of Quinerly’s social media following dates to high school, when he was part of the “Jelly Fam” that made a particular type of finger-roll basket go viral online. Quinerly wrote on Twitter in March, “This is a movement that has the potential to not only put ourselves in better positions financially but our families as well.”
Incoming freshman guard JD Davison -- a former five-star recruit, like Quinerly -- is another potential marketing force on Instagram, boasting almost 350,000 followers. And guard Nimari Burnett, a former McDonald’s All-American who transferred this offseason from Texas Tech, has more than 58,000 followers on that platform. That is more than all but three football players.
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:55 am to Bear88
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You got JD too
He'd be the one running the offense for most of the other 25-30 minutes in that scenario. Maybe he will surprise me with his ability to create and break down a defense, but right now I see Burnett as an off-ball guard/secondary ball handler. I just think we need 4 true guards. With 3 all it takes is an injury or some foul trouble and you're pretty fricked in the backcourt.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:08 am to Chadaristic
Jordan Harper said it was Shacks dads decision and Now Wimp just said on radio that Shackelfords dad doesn’t feel “he is getting enough shots”
Is his dad blind?
Is his dad blind?
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:19 am to mistaken4193
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Jordan Harper said it was Shacks dads decision and Now Wimp just said on radio that Shackelfords dad doesn’t feel “he is getting enough shots”
376 FGA (most on the team) in 968 minutes (second most on the team) is a shot every 2.5 minutes and he had the worst FG% of every rotation player except for Reese and Rojas and had only the 7th best 3P% on the team while taking the second most attempts.
Get out of here with that nonsense.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:21 am to Robot Santa
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My hunch is that Burnett will be this, but his shooting was so bad last year it's far from a given.
We keep saying "last year", but we also need to remember it was just 12 games. The first 12 games of his college career on a total of 23 attempts in an offense not known for its 3 point prowess (303rd in attempts last year). That recruiting decision is still one of the most confusing I've ever seen. That system was the exact opposite of everything he said he wanted and needed.
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:22 am to Chadaristic
Shack had at least 10 FGA in 23 of 33 (70%) games last year.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:26 am to mistaken4193
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Jordan Harper said it was Shacks dads decision and Now Wimp just said on radio that Shackelfords dad doesn’t feel “he is getting enough shots”
It doesn't make sense, but this is what I figured was the plan. Get him somewhere he can put up 15+ shots per game and score 20+ points per game.
I could be wrong, but I don't see him getting that at UCLA. He'll need to go to a team in desperate need of a scorer.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:40 am to BigBird09
Everyone has kinda touched on my thoughts already about Shack, so I'll make a different point.
I am very excited about what we do with this last roster spot. Oats' style and philosophy kinda reminds me of what Stevens did with the Celtics. A heavy value on position versatility, ball handling, passing, and defense. I'm not trying to put Shack down because he's in the portal now but how many of those 4 I just listed did he check off? I think Burnett, more minutes for Ellis, and another year of progression for Miles more than makes up for Shack.
What I would like Oats to do now is either bring in another primary ball-handler so we can always have at least 2 guys we can totally trust with the ball (JQ, JD, transfer) on the court at almost all times or bring in a wing that can switch on at least 3 positions and can shoot it. If we bring in the right guy, our roster will actually become a lot more flexible and that's what makes us dangerous given how deep we are.
Shack was a good player and I feel bad for him because his dad gave him really bad advice but worse things have happened than replacing an undersized 2 who isn't the best on defense and is a bit of a chucker.
I am very excited about what we do with this last roster spot. Oats' style and philosophy kinda reminds me of what Stevens did with the Celtics. A heavy value on position versatility, ball handling, passing, and defense. I'm not trying to put Shack down because he's in the portal now but how many of those 4 I just listed did he check off? I think Burnett, more minutes for Ellis, and another year of progression for Miles more than makes up for Shack.
What I would like Oats to do now is either bring in another primary ball-handler so we can always have at least 2 guys we can totally trust with the ball (JQ, JD, transfer) on the court at almost all times or bring in a wing that can switch on at least 3 positions and can shoot it. If we bring in the right guy, our roster will actually become a lot more flexible and that's what makes us dangerous given how deep we are.
Shack was a good player and I feel bad for him because his dad gave him really bad advice but worse things have happened than replacing an undersized 2 who isn't the best on defense and is a bit of a chucker.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:41 am to mistaken4193
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Jordan Harper said it was Shacks dads decision and Now Wimp just said on radio that Shackelfords dad doesn’t feel “he is getting enough shots”
"My boy would be the next James Harden if he just had a coach that would let him take all the shots."
Maybe he will transfer to LSU and take all those Cam Thomas YOLO shots.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:42 am
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