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Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:44 pm to
Under a microscope, Holloway seems to be the most concerning piece. If he is a starter we are instantly small, have a defensive weak spot to cover up and lose physicality. I love that the guy can inject instant offense, has a great shot 3 pt shot and a nice floater. But I would still much prefer he be coming off the bench his whole career. Honestly don't even know if Wrightsell is starter quality at the 2 coming off injury. It seems everyone else finds a hybrid wing/2 guard that comes in at 6'4 or better, shoots well and defends. Auburn got Miles Kelly, UT got Chaz Lanier, Florida got Will Richard, Aberdeen and Duke has Kneuppel. Obviously all those teams are talented at most positions, but our small below the rim guards seem pretty glaring in being the one piece that hurts us the most against elite comp.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4279 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Imma need Preston Murphy to start making some vague memes and shite



I hate this part of the off-season the most. Not having a real idea of what the roster is going to look like until probably June.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3077 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Under a microscope, Holloway seems to be the most concerning piece. If he is a starter we are instantly small, have a defensive weak spot to cover up and lose physicality. I love that the guy can inject instant offense, has a great shot 3 pt shot and a nice floater. But I would still much prefer he be coming off the bench his whole career. Honestly don't even know if Wrightsell is starter quality at the 2 coming off injury. It seems everyone else finds a hybrid wing/2 guard that comes in at 6'4 or better, shoots well and defends. Auburn got Miles Kelly, UT got Chaz Lanier, Florida got Will Richard, Aberdeen and Duke has Kneuppel. Obviously all those teams are talented at most positions, but our small below the rim guards seem pretty glaring in being the one piece that hurts us the most against elite comp.


Well said.
Out of curiousity, did we go after any of the guys on that list? Any of those would have made a big difference for us.
Posted by rushball
Member since Apr 2021
279 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Once again, I didn't say that he would be. I said Herb was a full blown project his first few years in Tuscaloosa and that as sophomores Mo is far more physical, has far better touch and has a better handle. Herb's best characteristic his first few years in Tuscaloosa was he had great length to cover multiple positions and he played hard. Herb developed into a very good multi faceted player.

I see Mo as much more like a Draymond Green type than Herb anyway. I was just responding to a post stating that Mo is nowhere near the level of Herb. As sophomores being the measuring stick for where Mo currently is, he is far better than Herb was at that time in his career.


nice to see there are still some real bama basketball heads on here. the draymond comparison does make more sense from a positional stance, i just go with herb due to the elite defensive versitility, above average game reads, and the fact hes doing it for bama. from a historical and statistical point of view there are many glaring reasons mo displayed to show how hes ready for a much bigger role in the way herb was but my personal favorite one is mo's bcp rating. herbs was .75 the year he got sec poy. mo's last season was a 1.01 despite very limited minutes. i know at this point many on here dont agree for whatever reason (im still waiting on one lol) but the reality is every bama fan should be very excited about the very evident potential growth we could get from a guy like that as he goes into his third year, and dare i say its really not shooting for the stars to do so.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:42 pm to
Aden Holloway was not a poor defender.

Drop coverage probably made him look like he was and then he had one of the worst whistles in the country like Grant Nelson.

What Aden Holloway gives you is the ability to create against anyone. Philon can do it but I think he has an opportunity to shoot up on draft boards so he's not on there. He does need to work on his passing though.

Latrell Wrightsell Jr (if he close to 100%) is the best shooter Alabama has had under Oats and I saw somebody say if we play against size how can we stop this and that...well we just played against Duke (who had all this size) but we still managed to get wide open shots...guess who wouldn't miss those "Latrell Wrightsell Jr".

Mo Dioubate has improved as a shooter and a playmaker.

Some claim that there would be terrible spacing...why would that be the case? The only person who can't shoot is Corey Chest.

Chest would be used as a screener and a rim runner.

Noah Williamson has shown he can handle the ball and shoot the three.

Just my opinion though.

This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1097 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:59 pm to
I looked through about a dozen mock drafts that came up on a google search and only about half had Philon in the first round. Of those, most had him at the last couple of picks. Highest I saw was 20 (Gary Parish).

I think we have a good chance of keeping him if that is the case.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25251 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Aden Holloway was not a poor defender


Agreed. He’s a horrible defender. I like Holloway and what he brings offensively but defensively he’s currently a joke.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:07 pm to
I disagree.

I thought Mark Sears was horrible.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2844 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:09 pm to
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The two teams in the final 4, what Kentucky and Arkansas will have next year, Tennessee, and several others. But that’s 5.


Auburn is losing everybody except for CBM and Pettiford. Kentucky is losing everybody except for Robinson. Who does Tennessee have? And several others???? LOL. Arkansas is pretty funny. You shite on our lineup but pump up a Knox/Richmond/Wagner and a couple freshmen? This place really lacks intelligence.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22272 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:24 pm to
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This place really lacks intelligence.


Ironical
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
6873 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:28 pm to
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You shite on our lineup but pump up a Knox/Richmond/Wagner and a couple freshmen


It’s not “our lineup” you goof it’s a hypothetical lineup that 100% won’t happen.

I’d be willing to bet 2 of the guys in that lineup won’t be on the team next year and of the 3 who will only 2 will be starting.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19184 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:56 pm to
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Just my opinion though.



Yeah and another very bad one.

Aden is undersized, struggles to stay in front of bigger guards and gets lost any time their is even a hint of a PnR.

That lineup would have us eaten up by any team with a average bigger guard and would put so much pressure on everyone else to make up for how undersized we are we would at best be middle of the pack in SEC and a threat to be knocked early in the tournament
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105690 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Aden Holloway was not a poor defender.


Aden Holloway is an awful defender. He's small, he's weak, he struggles to stay in front of the ball and he doesn't trust his reads.

I like him and think he has a role, but the evidence is there in spades from across the season on his defensive abilities.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
I thought he done a great job defensively on the road at Auburn. I thought he done a decent job versus BYU in his initial defense but the back door got him a few times.

Our bigs were just as bad defending PnR as well.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:10 pm to
Davion Hannah and Link Academy fixing to play on ESPN2 in the Chipotle Nationals.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by rushball
Member since Apr 2021
279 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Ironical


coming from a guy who called mo a one trick pony with no skill or potential then refused to explain why but also not too long ago found it rational to proclaim jarin as still an nba guy this season despite having what most would say, a frustrating one at the very least. ironic indeed.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:08 pm to
I think Kentucky does lose Robinson. He was a senior this year and I think played too many games to get a medical redshirt.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2844 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:35 pm to
Big time Hannah block
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2844 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:42 pm to
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coming from a guy who called mo a one trick pony with no skill or potential then refused to explain why but also not too long ago found it rational to proclaim jarin as still an nba guy this season despite having what most would say, a frustrating one at the very least. ironic indeed.


Don’t bother, this board is full of hypocritical trolls. They’ll make shite up and then ignore you when you call them out for it.
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