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Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:35 pm to BigBird09
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:35 pm to BigBird09
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Dude, the PR team prepped him for that statement.
How do you know that? How do you know that they’ve told Saban that he can’t say this one specific phrase because people got mad at Oats for saying it?
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:35 pm to BigBird09
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That's why we have a PR staff.
And why we need to hire a competent staff and fire everyone currently working in it.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:36 pm to Joka2kold
quote:Really bro. Why do you think Saban would be purposefully taking shots at Oats?
Really bro?
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:41 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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How do you know that? How do you know that they’ve told Saban that he can’t say this one specific phrase because people got mad at Oats for saying it?
Because a public relations team typically deals with issues related to public relations. If our PR team didn't warn Saban of those things before a public relations statement, then we don't really have a PR team.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:44 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
After this weekend, I feel like my bracket was filled out at the wrong place at the wrong time. It went to hell in a hand basket.
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:45 pm to BigBird09
I doubt Saban consults with anyone before his press conferences.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:48 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
I dont see any way Saban didnt know, he doesnt live under a rock, I think he was mad that the Oats comment put the university in a negative light and was trying to do some image correction.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:53 pm to CrimsonFever
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I doubt Saban consults with anyone before his press conferences.
And that's just fine when this isn't the first time we're speaking on a recently arrested player in the current climate our basketball program is in. I find it so hard to believe that he wasn't consulted on this, but if Saban was allowed to skip the PR meeting on this one, Byrne is demonstrating a total lack of control.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 9:58 pm to RMD
Going to dissect your post a bit and explain why I'm frustrated and why it could potentially not be a big nothing, this is me airing out my opinions and not directed toward you.
Saying there's no such thing as the wrong place at the wrong time makes zero sense in this context. Compare what Mitchell did to Miller and figure out why that would be said. If I knowingly broke the law and then tried to run from the cops, that's the last defense that would be said when describing my situation/behavior.
The Miller situation has been the biggest story in Tuscaloosa, maybe the state, and one of the biggest in the sports landscape for over a month now. So either he truly didn't think about Nate when he said it, the person who prepared the statement didn't think about it, or it was thought about but still said...I don't know which would be worse. Especially after the narrative was just about to start changing more, even some national guys were easing up. Now guys like Travis have more content.
It's a big nothing but today's world doesn't care, it can be spun into anything. Hell, I'm surprised the Henry Ruggs angle hasn't been used yet. This could be a bad look not just for Oats but a blowback on Saban as well.
Accidental or not, it's just incredibly dumb and very unfortunate it was said. Deep down I don't think it was said on purpose but at the same time, I could almost see Saban saying that as kind of a dig. I'm not a mind reader and this should blow over fairly quickly but it's a hell of a way to kick off the week.
I'll probably wake up tomorrow and realize maybe I'm overreacting a bit or being a bit sensationalist but we're extremely lucky to be able to watch this team on the court this year and here we are not talking about our play but another distraction. It's frustrating and I think we can all agree on that point.
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Within context he wasn’t wrong
Saying there's no such thing as the wrong place at the wrong time makes zero sense in this context. Compare what Mitchell did to Miller and figure out why that would be said. If I knowingly broke the law and then tried to run from the cops, that's the last defense that would be said when describing my situation/behavior.
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and he wasn’t even thinking about Nate when he said it.
The Miller situation has been the biggest story in Tuscaloosa, maybe the state, and one of the biggest in the sports landscape for over a month now. So either he truly didn't think about Nate when he said it, the person who prepared the statement didn't think about it, or it was thought about but still said...I don't know which would be worse. Especially after the narrative was just about to start changing more, even some national guys were easing up. Now guys like Travis have more content.
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I wish we’d quit giving the media ammunition but again in reality this is a big nothing.
It's a big nothing but today's world doesn't care, it can be spun into anything. Hell, I'm surprised the Henry Ruggs angle hasn't been used yet. This could be a bad look not just for Oats but a blowback on Saban as well.
Accidental or not, it's just incredibly dumb and very unfortunate it was said. Deep down I don't think it was said on purpose but at the same time, I could almost see Saban saying that as kind of a dig. I'm not a mind reader and this should blow over fairly quickly but it's a hell of a way to kick off the week.
I'll probably wake up tomorrow and realize maybe I'm overreacting a bit or being a bit sensationalist but we're extremely lucky to be able to watch this team on the court this year and here we are not talking about our play but another distraction. It's frustrating and I think we can all agree on that point.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:05 pm to TheNameIsDalton
Sucks that the focus will be on this for the next day or two and not us getting ready to play in the sweet 16, but I think the team is mentally strong enough to not let it affect how they play in the game on Friday. Off-the-court distraction yes, but in comparison to some other ones the bball team has had this year it's pretty small.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:18 pm to CrimsonFever
Saban not doing us any favors with that comment. First of all, if he didn’t know what he was doing, his situational awareness needs to improve. Secondly, he’s just plain wrong. It’s absolutely possible to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Every human being has experience that on some level. What he meant to say was Tony wasn’t in the wrong place at the wrong time, he’s guilty and likely won’t be back on our team. For the love, Nick.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:23 pm to Allthatfades
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It was a shot at Oats. I just don’t know why.
Only Saban "knows" why - but this is a social media/opinion forum so here's my opinion:
Saban has been worshipped (well earned) for his 15 years at Bama - the Bama dynasty is real as evidenced by the multiple SEC and National titles - but cracks in the armor have appeared the last two seasons (defense under-performed - offense relied on QB to win via improvisation - managed by coordinators he hired) while UGA dominated and won back to back titles.
Concurrently, Oats has won the conference regular season and conference tournament 2 of 3 years and has the team poised as the betting favorite to win the title.
Maybe Saban ain't ready to share the stage with Oats - and don't even try to say his comments weren't intentional - Saban owns the media and uses them to deliver his messages to the team and public at large (rat poison, rules changes affecting the game, NIL, etc) - when he speaks to the press, he knows exactly what he wants to say - he has an ego and whether intentional or sub-consciously, he meant to parrot Oats' "wrong place, wrong time" phrase and draw a distinction between his program and Oats' program.
The facts are clearly different - Miller committed no crime and the authorities have publicly said so - Mitchell was caught red-handed w/overwhelming evidence and has been arrested.
The timing of Saban's comments could not be worse - Bama is prepping for the final games to decide the title and now this a distraction (as Saban would say "clutter") - I'm hoping/betting Oats and his team will not be distracted.
RTR
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:38 pm to Dubosed
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watched him dog cuss and make two grown men high school football coaches cry at a camp I took my nephew to years ago.
He made 2 grown men that are high school coaches cry? You're kidding right? Dude there isn't shite you or any other man could say that's gonna make me cry. Those guys may need to find a different line of work.
I think Saban is pissed at the harm that has been created by mistakes made with the basketball staffs own statements. Saban takes ownership of the University. He has created most of the recent,relatively speaking, positive energy toward Bama that's out there. He's probably just as pissed at Oats as some of yall are at him. He's also sending a message to his players that this behavior is not acceptable. And maybe he's sending the same message to the basketball players.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:44 pm to BFANLC
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He has created most of the recent,relatively speaking, positive energy toward Bama that's out there.
He did that by winning games, not talking to reporters.
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And maybe he's sending the same message to the basketball players.
Not his job - that Oats' responsibility.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:49 pm to roadkill
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Not his job - that Oats' responsibility
It is anyone's job when it's not being done and when you take ownership of something. Ever worked somewhere or been on a team (sports or military related) where someone has come in and just fricked up everything? fricked up the teamwork fricked up everything you've worked hard to create? If so did you just lay back and let it continue to be fkd? Sometimes it's on other people to straighten stuff out besides your CO.
He also won games by creating a mindset within the program. A process created by using the media.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:45 pm to CCTider
Pickleball is a man's sport.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:48 pm to CrimsonFever
I'm thinking of becoming a liberal just so I can piss people off.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:05 am to CrimsonFever
We got a get this WIN Friday.
One game at a time...one step closer to our goal!
One game at a time...one step closer to our goal!
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:57 am to RMD
quote:Alabama can put Burnett on him.
The guard at 6’4 230 lbs might be an issue for our defense.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:07 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:Height does matter if it is in a n athletic, agile body like Alabama has. Purdue had height on players who were not athletic enough. Clowney, Miller and Pringle are all very agile and athletic. They are a matchup problem for most. CB has above average agility for a man his size.
Purdue had an insane height advantage over FDU so that doesn't matter.
OTOH, Sears is small and slow, though he makes up for a lot with smarts and effort. Of course, JQ is small but quick and fast.
As the original poster said, Alabama's height should give SDSU problems, it has everyone else.
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