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re: Thoughts on LSU game
Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
LSU is going to pound the ball and commit to their run game while rotating QBs. They'll also play with 4 downs more than normal...average 3 yards a rush and going for it on 4th down is almost guaranteed anywhere near the 50.
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:34 pm to Chad4Bama
Look at their third down situations. They are not very good in that area.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:53 pm to NWLA_Bama
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And this is THE EXACT reason I don't think any aspect of our offense is great, because of the OL. I'm not underestimating it, I'm acknowledging it by saying they (the OL) are the reason we're not "great" on offense. Their inability to run block and consistently pass block is keeping this offense from reaching its full potential. Could you imagine how unstoppable our offense would be if our running game was just "average", i.e. middle of the pack? LOL! It would make our passing game truly unstoppable. But we can't even string together two back to back rushes for more than 2-3 yards because of DL'man penetrating the backfield.
I can’t say you’re wrong or put up an argument about the OL being great, they’re not and maybe average at best overall.
But the one thing this team does well is play as a team. When the offense shoots it’s self in the foot the defense rises up and makes a critical stop or play. And vice versa as well when the defense gives up a big play, the offense steps up and has a methodical scoring drive to give the defense a breather.
This team finds a way to win. It’s not pretty, it’s ugly at times but they never give up and they seem to play for each other and believe in DeBoer and staff to call the right play when it’s most needed. They just find ways to win and that’s all I care about right now. But you’re right about this… if they ever put it all together and start firing on all cylinders then I can see this team winning it all.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
The offense better show up and fricking put out! I can't take another shite show like our last appearance...
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:02 pm to GooseSix
My biggest gripe is our opening defensive series to start almost every game has been abysmal. Our opponents just march down the field and score unless they completely step on their dicks.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:04 pm to TideSaint
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My biggest gripe is our opening defensive series to start almost every game has been abysmal.
This has been a problem to start the 3Q as well.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:06 pm to TideSaint
Starting fast on both sides of the ball is the best way to defeat teams in the mental situation of LSU.
We didn't do that against South Carolina and those guys got engaged instead of taking the first opportunity to bail out when Alabama got up a couple of scores in the 2nd half.
If Alabama allows LSU to keep it close into halftime then has another one of their patented piss poor 3rd quarters then there we'll be.
We didn't do that against South Carolina and those guys got engaged instead of taking the first opportunity to bail out when Alabama got up a couple of scores in the 2nd half.
If Alabama allows LSU to keep it close into halftime then has another one of their patented piss poor 3rd quarters then there we'll be.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:19 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:14 am to NWLA_Bama
The OL is much better at pass pro than you give it credit for. Ty mostly has clean pockets for the 3 secs he needs to process and throw. Sometimes he holds the ball too long and sometimes the RB does not pick up a man that is attributed to the OL. One of Ty’s two sacks that most blame on Proctor was Hill’s responsibility. Sometimes the protections are not set properly. Of course the OL also fails occasionally but overall it has been at least decent. (I know of almost no fan base that is happy with their OL. Most of their expectations are unreasonable.)
Also, USCe has one of the top 2 or 3 Edges in the country. Some think he might be the number 1 player taken in the draft - certainly the top half of round one. The other one is good too.
The run blocking is another issue. According to others who know about such things, part of it is a mismatch between what the OL can do and the types of runners Ala has. Even within the OL there is not consistency. That’s not rare with a new staff trying to get the types of OL they want along with the types of runners they want. (The running game is more complicated than most fans realize.) It will probably take another year or two to get them coordinated.
Also, USCe has one of the top 2 or 3 Edges in the country. Some think he might be the number 1 player taken in the draft - certainly the top half of round one. The other one is good too.
The run blocking is another issue. According to others who know about such things, part of it is a mismatch between what the OL can do and the types of runners Ala has. Even within the OL there is not consistency. That’s not rare with a new staff trying to get the types of OL they want along with the types of runners they want. (The running game is more complicated than most fans realize.) It will probably take another year or two to get them coordinated.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:21 am to tattoo
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The OL is much better at pass pro than you give it credit for. Ty mostly has clean pockets for the 3 secs he needs to process and throw. Sometimes he holds the ball too long and sometimes the RB does not pick up a man that is attributed to the OL. One of Ty’s two sacks that most blame on Proctor was Hill’s responsibility. Sometimes the protections are not set properly. Of course the OL also fails occasionally but overall it has been at least decent.
That statement doesnt account for Ty being really good at moving within the pocket. Huge improvement over Milroe and much better than most college QBs. He's not Tom Brady, but he does have some of the subtle footwork that keeps him out of trouble without having to bail out.
Ty makes the OL look better sometimes. Milroe made them look terrible sometimes.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 6:23 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:43 am to SECSolomonGrundy
There was no need to bring Milroe into the conversation. We're already in November. Cmon.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:58 am to Panthers4life
Hey man, sorry. Gotta let all naysayers know that we are dealing with an upgraded and highly skilled QB now. Not just a guy who is real fast and can throw it far.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:53 am to tattoo
I literally count the seconds on each Bama passing play, "One one thousand, two one thousand", etc. and Ty almost always has 3 and often 4 seconds to throw the ball. I've always felt if you give the QB 4 seconds, the O line has done their job.
I recall at least 1-2 times vs South Carolina, Ty literally had 7 seconds to get rid of the ball.
Next Spring is going to be very interesting with the competition on the O line. Gonna be some fierce competition who gets what spot. Proctor has improved but I suspect he's gone after this year. Pretty sure whoever takes his spot will be more athletic and quicker.
I recall at least 1-2 times vs South Carolina, Ty literally had 7 seconds to get rid of the ball.
Next Spring is going to be very interesting with the competition on the O line. Gonna be some fierce competition who gets what spot. Proctor has improved but I suspect he's gone after this year. Pretty sure whoever takes his spot will be more athletic and quicker.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:02 am to TideSaint
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My biggest gripe is our opening defensive series to start almost every game has been abysmal.
I may be wrong but I have a feeling that due to planning and scripting of plays to start a game, more points are scored on the games opening drive than the first possession of the 2nd half.
Due to this, I'd prefer we take the ball to start the game if we win the toss and hopefully play with a lead than have to come back. Put pressure on the other team to match your score.
I know there's a big benefit if you can get the last possession of the 1st and first possession of the 2nd, but you aren't guaranteed that just because you defer.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:10 am to tattoo
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The run blocking is another issue. According to others who know about such things, part of it is a mismatch between what the OL can do and the types of runners Ala has. Even within the OL there is not consistency. That’s not rare with a new staff trying to get the types of OL they want along with the types of runners they want. (The running game is more complicated than most fans realize.) It will probably take another year or two to get them coordinated.
Which is why I think recruiting should take care of this. The Film Guy (Brooks Austin) has said several times that we don't have the linemen to do what DeBoer and Grubb want to do when it comes to the OL. So, the only answer to that is recruiting and transfer portal. I expect to see plenty of activity in the portal for DL'men and OL'men in the offseason.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:12 am to DT55Forever1
We’ve been very disjointed in the middle 8. Particularly at completing the 2-for-1 opportunity on the 2nd half side possession. We’ve had 3 games on the road with 2-for-1 opportunities and just completely barfed the 3rd qtr possession. Two of them ended in strip sack fumbles. That’s how you lose control of a game and we’ve been masters of it this year regrettably.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:13 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:34 am to Diego Ricardo
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We’ve been very disjointed in the middle 8. Particularly at completing the 2-for-1 opportunity on the 2nd half side possession. We’ve had 3 games on the road with 2-for-1 opportunities and just completely barfed the 3rd qtr possession. Two of them ended in strip sack fumbles. That’s how you lose control of a game and we’ve been masters of it this year regrettably.
Do you think DeBoer will correct some of this stuff via recruiting and the transfer portal? On the OL, I see very big immobile guys being asked to be agile and mobile and struggle to do it. I also see a defensive line that doesn't have a guy with true quick twitch movements like we got used to seeing under Saban. There's been a significant drop off at the linebacker position as well. We've done great with what we have but from my armchair quarterback recliner, Ijust see a need for better talent on the DL and LB side and a more mobile type of player for the OL. Thoughts?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:36 am to tide06
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Our margin for error this season is razor thin
Agree. I have enjoyed this season more than any in a long time. We are not dominant but both players and coaches are playing with an attitude that is fun to see develop.
If we continue to improve I wouldn't want to play us at year end.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:55 am to NWLA_Bama
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Do you think DeBoer will correct some of this stuff via recruiting and the transfer portal? On the OL, I see very big immobile guys being asked to be agile and mobile and struggle to do it. I also see a defensive line that doesn't have a guy with true quick twitch movements like we got used to seeing under Saban. There's been a significant drop off at the linebacker position as well. We've done great with what we have but from my armchair quarterback recliner, Ijust see a need for better talent on the DL and LB side and a more mobile type of player for the OL. Thoughts?
I think any time you're liberally rotating 3 out of the 5 positions on the OL, you know you don't really have what you want at those positions. The suggestions that we have poor scheme fit is broadly true but ironically one of our two locked in linemen is a poor scheme fit on paper (Proctor).
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:59 am to Diego Ricardo
I think we’re an awful matchup for their offense. They don’t run the ball well and have to throw it a ton (to moderate success)
By contrast teams have very seldom chosen to test our secondary. Partially because our run d is weak, but also because our pass coverage seems to be very good
By contrast teams have very seldom chosen to test our secondary. Partially because our run d is weak, but also because our pass coverage seems to be very good
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:09 am
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