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re: The OL STILL can’t bust a grape

Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:40 am to
That’s a scheme issue that hopefully gets corrected before next week. Asking ANY tight end to block an edge rusher one on one is bad practice.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46090 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:43 am to
quote:

We aren’t committed to the run. That’s the reality. And that’s ok when you’ve got stud QBs.


Yep. This is what modern football is. You run the ball often enough, and hopefully effectively enough, to slow the pass rush down. Running is objectively less efficient than passing if you have a good QB and Bryce is more than good.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:46 am to
Plus scheme - RPO football is never going to unleash your offensive line. I honestly hate it as a fan but it plays to Bryce’s strength.

Hate might be a strong word but I loved 2020 when we were in a little bit of a throwback mode with more true downhill running and play-action. But that fit Mac better.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 7:48 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46090 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:57 am to
It only irks me when it's like 1st and goal from the 2 and we're lining up in shotgun with 3 WRs.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69810 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:58 am to
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It only irks me when it's like 1st and goal from the 2 and we're lining up in shotgun with 3 WRs.


That's just modern football. Sad to say, but it's very rare anymore to see a team go heavy when in short yardage situations.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:14 am to
There were also a few busts in pass blocking.

The OL is clearly the worst unit on the team.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:21 am to
We’ve played one game. Nothing is clear.
Posted by BobLobLaw199
Hickory
Member since Jan 2020
65 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:54 am to
The perk of lining up with 3 WRs at the goal line is it opens the run up a bit more and spreads the defense out some. I like shotgun at the goal line
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 9:04 am to
It’s dumb to hand the ball off 7yds deep when you only need 1 foot.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26140 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:17 am to
You won't see a defense like that very often scheme wise either they talked about it over and over on the TV broadcast.

Very unconventional the way they line up blitz shoot gaps and stunt, indeed it might have been a huge benefit for us to have seen that because teams are going to do things like that to pressure our QB all year long.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4966 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:24 am to
Mag, you can't ask TE to take on a edge LB.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21912 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:28 am to
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The OL STILL can’t bust a grape
this had been said every year after the first game, regardless of how the line turned out. It was said early in 2012, early in 2020, etc etc
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:33 am to
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this had been said every year after the first game


Absolutely. Even the 2012 squad was criticized after game one. These guys are gonna look better next week at Texas.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15800 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:59 am to
quote:

It only irks me when it's like 1st and goal from the 2 and we're lining up in shotgun with 3 WRs.

Coach Saban's Play of the Game

Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35715 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Asking ANY tight end to block an edge rusher one on one is bad practice.


They did it a fair amount though, especially on the left side with Ouzt/Steen. And it was mostly successful, several times Ouzt locked up the DE, allowing Steen to double with the LG.

#9 beat him twice on the right side with a spin move, once for the sack and the other was what flushed Bryce for his huge run.

But yeah, Ouzts was blocking a lot of #9, #11, #0 last night on his own...
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3284 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 2:25 pm to
Relax Francis. They'll be fine. Takes about 3 games to really gel and this gameplan was as vanilla as an ice cream sundae...

Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11807 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 2:35 pm to
I'll agree the offensive line play wasn't at the level we wanted but there's a few reasons for that.

1) New coach, new scheme. That was their first live action in a new system and it looked to me like we zone blocked less and there were definitely some blown assignments but that will clean itself up with time. I will say I saw a lot less of backs getting met in the backfield before they took a couple of steps. Guys weren't getting blown up and pushed back in the backfield like last year.

2) Utah State's defensive philosophy: They play a very disruptive style with lots of stunts up front and it showed. Quite often, they had several guys from the back 7 walked up and 1 or 2 were coming and the others were dropping back into coverage but you didn't know who was doing what until the snap. It even confused Bryce a couple of times and he called the wrong blocking scheme and got pressured for it. Add in the linemen stunts and our guys didn't know who to block.

Overall, I think the effort was better and the scheme was better but the guys haven't quite put it all together yet and need more time to gel but I'm encouraged by what I saw. It was ugly at times, but it was more mental mistakes than getting their asses whipped which happened way too often last year.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 3:02 pm to
Ouzts sort-of, semi, kind of holding his own against Utah State's edge rushers does not make me feel great about him doing the same against SEC opponents or even the guys that Texas will line up next week.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35715 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 3:20 pm to
I'm not sure where either of y'all got that I was in favor or against it, I'm just talking about that it took place.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10720 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

It is playing the hot hand. Bama didn't force the rush because it didn't have to


But what about when you do have to?

I miss the days of that almost perfect 50/50 balance.
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