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re: So 4th & 11 wasn't Smart's stupid fault. It was Justin Fields all the time....
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:56 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:56 pm to East Coast Band
I assume they have excuses for 2008,2012,2015,and 2017 to go along with the best new 2018 version.
zero for 5 since 2008.
zero for 5 since 2008.
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:08 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I believe..fields is a loser and a poc..to the barn a no brainer
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:09 pm to John Milner
Watching that play again, he actually had an open receiver. The safety might have came up to make the play. But a guy got open. Doubt he planned on passing. But I'm pretty sure it was there.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:10 pm to John Milner
So you think Justin Fields who is not part of the regular punt team is as fault for apparently forcing himself into the field and calling this play...
... all without poor flowbee cuts knowledge?
So obvious they are doing everything to throw Fields under the bus. I just hope this in some way blows back on their fanbase and program.
... all without poor flowbee cuts knowledge?
So obvious they are doing everything to throw Fields under the bus. I just hope this in some way blows back on their fanbase and program.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:10 pm to prevatt33
I'm not buying the play failed because it was run 2 seconds late. Both sides were more or less standing around for several seconds before the ball was snapped.
Second, the tackle eligible receiver only went about 6 yards downfield and turned out. Even if he caught it, he still needed about 5 more yards to gain.
And most importantly, you can't go with a play that could blow up if run a couple of seconds late. Way to risky, especially for a true freshman that has limited playing time.
I may could have understood running a fake on 4th 1, not 4th and 11
Second, the tackle eligible receiver only went about 6 yards downfield and turned out. Even if he caught it, he still needed about 5 more yards to gain.
And most importantly, you can't go with a play that could blow up if run a couple of seconds late. Way to risky, especially for a true freshman that has limited playing time.
I may could have understood running a fake on 4th 1, not 4th and 11
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:27 pm to CCTider
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Watching that play again, he actually had an open receiver.
If it's the same WR I'm thinking about over the middle, he was open after the rush was all over him. He never had a chance to throw to that guy imo.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:50 pm to McGregor
quote:100% agree. Georgia fans posted a picture that they thought showed a WR being open on the play, but as you stated, there was no way Fields was getting that throw off.
If it's the same WR I'm thinking about over the middle, he was open after the rush was all over him. He never had a chance to throw to that guy imo.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:19 pm to East Coast Band
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I'm not buying the play failed because it was run 2 seconds late.
Why?
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Both sides were more or less standing around for several seconds before the ball was snapped.
Yes, exactly. That's the problem. Bama had time to get the sideline adjustment in to Wilson, who then got it to Moses.
Thank you for helping make my point.
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Second, the tackle eligible receiver only went about 6 yards downfield and turned out. Even if he caught it, he still needed about 5 more yards to gain.
If Moses had not gone with him, there would have been no Bama player withing 15-20 yards of him, as both outside receivers ran inside routes.
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And most importantly, you can't go with a play that could blow up if run a couple of seconds late.
There are many plays that can get blown up if the defense sees it and adjusts pre-snap. This is a major part of offensive football.
In short, I disagree with nearly every word of your post. I'm not saying I would have run a fake. But it was a helluva nice idea, and it would have worked if They had snapped the football 2 seconds earlier, because Moses would've covered a completely different person - literally the person he was pointing at 2 seconds before the ball was snapped.
You're choosing to not buy the truth, and the simplest truth at that.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:26 pm to John Milner
Alabama had their D on the field...who ever made the final call is not smart!
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:27 pm to prevatt33
This exactly what was said about that play. "concrete proof that Alabama played defense safe" We had our defense on the field, not the kick return team.
He should have called time out. It cost them.
Watch it. It cost them the game. You cant put a kicking team out there and say, well you should have snapped the ball one second sooner. Thats on the coach. Ga has a great kicker. It was a huge advantage to Ga in an overtime situation.
He should have called time out. It cost them.
Watch it. It cost them the game. You cant put a kicking team out there and say, well you should have snapped the ball one second sooner. Thats on the coach. Ga has a great kicker. It was a huge advantage to Ga in an overtime situation.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:44 pm to pennypacker3
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Alabama had their D on the field...who ever made the final call is not smart!
A person who has obviously NOT watched the replay of the play, NOT watched Kirby Smart's post game presser, NOT watched Nick Saban's presser, and NOT read all of this thread... And who's completely wrong about the play... Is running their mouth about others' lack of intelligence! Wow.
This board never ceases to amaze.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:45 pm to IB4bama
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It was a huge advantage to Ga in an overtime situation.
Why? Kicking, maybe. But we had all the momentum and the better defense. I like Bama's odds fo sho.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:46 pm to John Milner
Kirby is the HC and Kirby had timeouts. Even if all of this were true, and I don’t believe it is, Kirby could have called a timeout and prevented it from being run.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 4:48 pm to prevatt33
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Go back and watch the play again. GA wants to throw it to who is the equivalent of the offensive Right Tackle
Yeah, the rout by that player was terrible. He ran five yards, turned inside, then ran into the flat after shuffling and looking for the ball. If that was the plan, then that guy botched it with his terrible rout.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:00 pm to prevatt33
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A person who has obviously NOT watched the replay of the play, NOT watched Kirby Smart's post game presser, NOT watched Nick Saban's presser, and NOT read all of this thread... And who's completely wrong about the play... Is running their mouth about others' lack of intelligence! Wow.
This board never ceases to amaze.
We all saw what happened. Kirby should've called a timeout. It is on him. A disgruntled player going rogue is an incredibly shitty excuse for an incredibly moronic mistake by the head coach.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:06 pm to Funky Tide 8
I am not supporting the Fields story in the OP, fyi.
And Saban has said many times about fans, (paraphrasing) "When it works, you say the play was a good call. When it doesn't work, it was a bad call. The real difference between those 2 is execution."
And this circumstance is no different.
It was a gamble, sure. But the call was great. The execution was bad.
And Saban has said many times about fans, (paraphrasing) "When it works, you say the play was a good call. When it doesn't work, it was a bad call. The real difference between those 2 is execution."
And this circumstance is no different.
It was a gamble, sure. But the call was great. The execution was bad.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:16 pm to prevatt33
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"When it works, you say the play was a good call. When it doesn't work, it was a bad call. The real difference between those 2 is execution."
Right, but that doesn't apply to this situation, because the call was fricked from jump street and a timeout emphatically should have been called.
It's like standing at the entrance of a bear's den with a rifle, and before entering, realizing that your rifle is jammed, and then saying "welp, I'm goin in anyway."
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But the call was great.
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:16 pm to prevatt33
4 and 11 call with Bama's starting d out there? Not a good call. There was actually a better time to have called that earlier in the game on a 4th and 1.
Always thought Kirby was a good coach. Figured he would have the secondary and lbs turned around after a few years. But its starting to look like maybe he doesn't develop players.
Always thought Kirby was a good coach. Figured he would have the secondary and lbs turned around after a few years. But its starting to look like maybe he doesn't develop players.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:05 pm to McGregor
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If it's the same WR I'm thinking about over the middle, he was open after the rush was all over him. He never had a chance to throw to that guy imo
You're right, there was a ton of pressure by then. And the angle also isn't great. But a good qb would've seen it developing. Of course, Fields is just a freshman with minimal experience, so it's not surprising he wouldn't see it developing.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:28 pm to John Milner
Shouldn't have a true freshman running that play. That is all on Kirby.
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