Sarkisians Offense at Bama and What made it Work

No he couldn’t. Apparently we are back to that idiot huddie Ledbetter and his two stooges days where every thread gets crapped on by this mess. Only this time it’s worse since none of the mods give a crap and now we are even getting new threads on it every 5 minutes. At least they finally banned huddie, river and the other one eventually.

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You couldn't have put this in any of the other threads?

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There is a link that explains why Bama offense was so good under Sark and Mac. It has nothing to do with Milroe.

Geez. Do any of you ever click the links that have the information or do you just read the titles ?

Why did you change the thread title from the shot at Milroe of “why its important for a qb to be able to read a defense”?

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It has nothing to do with Milroe.

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I didn't mention Milroe.

I don't dislike your passion it's just that it's been a week. We can't change a thing no matter how much we dislike any issue we may think we have.

At the end of the day Coach Saban is gonna run this team as he sees fit. All the moaning and groaning ain't gonna do a thing.


Anyway we can move past this and onto something else?

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I think the issue is you are beating a dead horse.

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That phrase everyone understands what is going on, and someone is still trying to explain the situation. Most of this board has no idea how limited we were because we were so limited at QB. Next years Heisman odds are more important than getting into the right plays and distributing the ball to all the playmakers.

I'll let it rest though. The people with their heads in the sand can keep them there. I'll stop trying to help them.

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What is the point of even making this comparison?

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The style offense everyone agrees they liked the most (for good reason) demanded a few things from the QB pre snap.

This link provided explains why that is, and how it works.

If anyone would simply mash the link it will explain it all.


And yeah, that Bama team was loaded, but this team and next years team has TONS of talent. As much or more than anyone else in the country. If we could use it all we could beat them all.

Hey, I'll stop providing information for those that want to learn, and simply start slinging shite like everyone else.

I think broadly, we're trying to do the same things as 2020 but what we're doing since Sark left is much more poorly packaged to maximize constraint issues on the defense. Can't underestimate that the OL play has just been flat-out poor since Kyle Flood left too.

Alabama floundered a bit post-Stoutland in 2013 and 2014 but not to this degree. 2 of the last 3 OL units are in the bottom 3 for the entire Saban tenure in Tuscaloosa. At least 2007 was year 1 and endured the meat of their schedule without their starting center due to textbookgate. Hard to make excuses for production in the same class as "unprocessed" Shula recruits. Freshmen LTs have started here before and flourished.

I think the QB does owe some blame though. Let's see if Milroe's year 4 can be more like Mac's year 4 in 2020. I have my doubts he can reach that benchmark but I do expect marked improvement at QB.

PowHound, which is it? Is this thread specifically targeting Milroe and his current limitations, or not?

You can't claim

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It has nothing to do with Milroe.

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when you're also saying

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Most of this board has no idea how limited we were because we were so limited at QB.

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WTF are we going away from it [an effective offense] because of one players limitations?

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Full disclosure: I was hoping Ty Simpson would win the job this year, because I thought he offered a better shot at becoming a more athletic Mac Jones or AJ McCarron-type QB than Milroe did.

Milroe wasn't the sole reason for our offensive struggles this year, but I do think he was about 50% of them (with another 25% being our OC, and the final 25% our offensive line and center issues). Milroe was either boom-or-bust, constantly looking for the big play when moving the chains (or even just getting positive yardage) would have been preferable.

I firmly believe Milroe was done no favors by Bill O'Brien, and his development suffered as a result. Things he should be able to do as a QB -- adjust protection, read the defense pre-snap at a high level, identify and hit his checkdowns immediately after the snap if needed -- he either couldn't or struggled to do consistently.

It's not just a matter of being an upperclassman. Time in a particular offensive system and familiarity with defenses plays a huge role. I hope Milroe (and Simpson, and Lonergan) all get much more comfortable in the off-season and progress considerably, just as Mac did.

But constantly harping on Milroe's failures (if that's what this is, and it's hard to justify it being anything else) doesn't accomplish anything. I think we're all disappointed that Alabama isn't in the championship game, especially when it was within our grasp. By the same token, this team overachieved this year relative to what we all expected in mid-September.

I thought the 2019 LSU offense was the best ever. The 2020 Alabama offense was even better. Am I right that an Alabama player won every individual offensive award that year? This included a wide receiver Heisman winner and a player drafted ahead of him at the same position (Waddle was hurt most of that year). The timing of all these players and Sark coming together was a prefect storm. Kiffen's offenses preformed at a high level with less talent.