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Saban's defense is too complex.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:55 pm
Hate to be the one to beat a dead horse, but man it's time for Saban to make some changes. His defense is so complex that it's keeping the best players off of the field as well as allowing too many break downs and missed assignments. You can't tell me that there isn't anything players like Ale Kaho and others could have contributed to our injury plagued defense .Honestly, I believe Saban needs to keep Sark and hire Charlie Strong and let Strong run his defense. I 'm just a common fan sharing my opinion. Lol, Who am I to question the great Saban, but just my thoughts.
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:58 pm to BamaMan95
I think every bama fan knows this now and by the looks of it Georgia might have just found out the same thing
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:58 pm to BamaMan95
The man has won 5 natty’s in the last 12 years but yes he needs to change the way he does things...
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:01 pm to BamaMan95
I tend to agree. Hard to run his defense the way it’s intended unless you have the perfect set of players. When you have that perfect set, run it. When you don’t, simplify it down to maximize the ability of your personal. Quit trying to fit a square peg in a round hole just because when it does fit, it works better. But again, what do I know. Besides playing madden, I’ve never coached a football team in my life.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:09 pm to Goldtide1
Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach ever. EVER! Let me guarantee you that he will have his finger on the pulse of college defense again soon.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:12 pm to GAFF
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The man has won 5 natty’s in the last 12 years but yes he needs to change the way he does things...
Big GE stockholder, huh?
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:18 pm to LockDown
Injuries lol and losing players early to draft or portal
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:19 pm to LockDown
UGA's defense isn't why they lost though. UGA has a terrible offense that doesn't utilize the skill players they have. We lost to LSU because of injuries to our defense and Tua coming back off of an injury. But, that doesn't mean we don't need to revamp the defense. To the contrary, I do think we need to update the defense a bit.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:27 pm to GAFF
quote:A lot of things change over 12 years.
The man has won 5 natty’s in the last 12 years but yes he needs to change the way he does things...
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:30 pm to BamaMan95
Oh, good grief.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that we had many key injuries on defense at critical positions, an inept Defensive Coordinator who couldn’t even teach his squad how many people can be on the field at one time during a football game, and started 4 true freshmen in our front 7 combined with the a few recruiting misses over the past couple of years and some lazy divas who transferred because they didn’t want to work to earn a position.
The defense is fine and will be fine after Golding pounds sand.
There’s nothing wrong with Saban’s scheme or philosophy.
The sky isn’t falling. Get a grip.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that we had many key injuries on defense at critical positions, an inept Defensive Coordinator who couldn’t even teach his squad how many people can be on the field at one time during a football game, and started 4 true freshmen in our front 7 combined with the a few recruiting misses over the past couple of years and some lazy divas who transferred because they didn’t want to work to earn a position.
The defense is fine and will be fine after Golding pounds sand.
There’s nothing wrong with Saban’s scheme or philosophy.
The sky isn’t falling. Get a grip.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:36 pm to LovetheLord
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Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach ever. EVER!
Lol. No.
He may be the best recruiter in the history of the sport.
Paul W. Bryant is still the greatest coach in college football history.
ETA: Let the under-25-and/or-only-started-watching-football-since-2009 kids begin the downvoting.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:54 pm to pvilleguru
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A lot of things change over 12 years.
You’re right. He’s also won 2 in the last 5 years, and he’s played for a title everyone of those years except for this year. Nothing screams the need to change defense philosophy’s like those kinda stats..
Edited to add he’s 65-6 in that same span. Just to have more stats to prove the needed change.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:02 pm to Chancellor
Ok boomer
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:05 pm to GAFF
quote:The vast majority of teams we play don't have a pulse on offense. It's not the Kentuckys and Western Carolinas that we're concerned about.
Edited to add he’s 65-6 in that same span. Just to have more stats to prove the needed change.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:06 pm to Chancellor
Bryant would surely admit that Saban is better. Saban coaches in a time of much greater parity. Saban recruits well but also does a great job of hiring assistants around him and his process is second to none. Like Bryant, Saban is very willing to adapt to whatever is working. He doesn’t create new offenses and defenses. He perfects them.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:08 pm to Goldtide1
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Ok boomer
That all you got, boy? That’s it? Surely you have something of substance to say in response and didn’t just leave some gay, ignorant drive by insult because you don’t have the intellectual capacity to articulate a response. Please, boy. Please, tell me you have more to your rebuttal than, “Ok, boomer.”
:lol: Shouldn’t you be leading the weekly meeting of Golding’s Groupies, anyway?
By the way, I’m not even a Boomer (like you know what that is, anyway :lol: ).
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:09 pm to GAFF
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The man has won 5 natty’s in the last 12 years but yes he needs to change the way he does things
People said this same shite back in 2013-2014 when it was obvious we needed to transition to a different style of offense and recruit different kinds of players on defense to keep up with the changing landscape of college football.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:33 pm to LovetheLord
I don't think there's as much parity in college football as you think there is. There's a reason Central Florida didn't even make the CFP when they were undefeated conference champs. I'd say the parity is about the same as it was then and I don't think it's ever going to change. FAU isn't ever going to be on the same footing as Alabama and Ohio State.
I'm not taking anything way from Saban. IMO , he is the 2nd greatest. He just hasn't surpassed Coach Bryant.
Coach Bryant could win with elite talent and he could win with pretty good talent. Saban's success drops off without a roster full of 5-stars at least 2 deep at almost every position (except kicker). As his peers noted, coach Bryant could take his players and beat yours and could take your players and beat his own. Bryant dominated college football for 2 decades (had some less-than-best seasons, as well- as has Saban). They both have won 6 National Championships. Saban may surpass him and I hope he does. Coach Bryant was also screwed out of at least 2 more due to the bias and political whims of sportswriters from other parts of the country who wanted to punish the state of Alabama, in general. Coach Bryant also won those championships in a time when it was harder to win a National Championship. Today, if you can win the SEC with 1 loss or less you can play in the CFP and have at least a 25% chance of winning it all. Or, in the past you could do well enough to be ranked in the top 2 in an objective computer system and have to win one game and become the undisputed champ. In Bryant's day, you had to win a subjective system and convince a majority of sportswriters who voted according to political philosophy, basic whim, college loyalty, and other biases and hope you could convince enough of them to rank you #1. It was way more subjective- which, again, is why he was screwed out of at least 2 more Natty's.
Not saying Saban won't eventually be the GOAT. I'm just saying he's not there, yet. That still belongs to Coach Bryant.
I'm not taking anything way from Saban. IMO , he is the 2nd greatest. He just hasn't surpassed Coach Bryant.
Coach Bryant could win with elite talent and he could win with pretty good talent. Saban's success drops off without a roster full of 5-stars at least 2 deep at almost every position (except kicker
). As his peers noted, coach Bryant could take his players and beat yours and could take your players and beat his own. Bryant dominated college football for 2 decades (had some less-than-best seasons, as well- as has Saban). They both have won 6 National Championships. Saban may surpass him and I hope he does. Coach Bryant was also screwed out of at least 2 more due to the bias and political whims of sportswriters from other parts of the country who wanted to punish the state of Alabama, in general. Coach Bryant also won those championships in a time when it was harder to win a National Championship. Today, if you can win the SEC with 1 loss or less you can play in the CFP and have at least a 25% chance of winning it all. Or, in the past you could do well enough to be ranked in the top 2 in an objective computer system and have to win one game and become the undisputed champ. In Bryant's day, you had to win a subjective system and convince a majority of sportswriters who voted according to political philosophy, basic whim, college loyalty, and other biases and hope you could convince enough of them to rank you #1. It was way more subjective- which, again, is why he was screwed out of at least 2 more Natty's. Not saying Saban won't eventually be the GOAT. I'm just saying he's not there, yet. That still belongs to Coach Bryant.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:35 pm to pvilleguru
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The vast majority of teams we play don't have a pulse on offense. It's not the Kentuckys and Western Carolinas that we're concerned about.
Over a third of all those wins came against top 25 competition. I’d say we’ve been playing some talented teams.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:47 pm to BamaMan95
I think the defense needs a facelift.
The corners need to be taught technique other than running up in the receiver’s jersey. It would be nice if they looked for the ball occasionally.
Also, they could be more aggressive with QB pressure. If the DBs can’t cover anyone, why not blitz them?
If I never see another delayed LB blitz, I’ll be cool with it.
Bama runs man defense far too often...especially when the corners can’t cover to begin with.
Finally, the defense is in desperate need of some alphas. Some guys to ‘encourage’ accountability.
The corners need to be taught technique other than running up in the receiver’s jersey. It would be nice if they looked for the ball occasionally.
Also, they could be more aggressive with QB pressure. If the DBs can’t cover anyone, why not blitz them?
If I never see another delayed LB blitz, I’ll be cool with it.
Bama runs man defense far too often...especially when the corners can’t cover to begin with.
Finally, the defense is in desperate need of some alphas. Some guys to ‘encourage’ accountability.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:50 pm
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