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re: Route To Playoffs Thread

Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:52 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:52 am to
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Bama's competition for the 4 seed is pretty much OU, Baylor, Oregon and Utah.

All have weak schedules like Bama. All could lose 2 games. All pretty much fail the eye test.



What eye test do we so matter of factly pass?

If we get in fine, but we had everything in front of us and we came out of the tunnel and laid a giant arse undisciplined, unprepared turd for 30 minutes. We came out and tried to furiously come back but with everything in front of us we gave an absolute dogshite effort.

If it happens it happens but we schedule a OOC schedule where the best team is Duke and shite our pants in the only big game of the year. I'm just not gonna be able to get revved up for the sneak in the backdoor playoff thing.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:59 am to
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Sorry, I don't see it.


Many didn't see it before Oklahoma State lost. I choose to believe it can still happen.

Realistically...

- That 3-4 loss team (Auburn) beat Oregon

- Oregon has beaten no one and will only have one major victory if they beat Utah. Same for Utah.

- Oklahoma barely scraped by Iowa State, lost to a three loss KState and their best win is a three loss Texas.

- Baylor is undefeated, but still have to play Oklahoma, Texas and Oklahoma again the the championship.


If Auburn bears Georgia the Iron Bowl will be hyped because it will be a two loss top 10 Auburn against a one loss top 5 Alabama.

I refuse to believe we have no shot. We just need things to go in our favor a bit and to manhandle our opponents.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:00 am to
If we do great, but we didn't earn it with anything other than having a talented roster.

Our resume will have absolutely nothing impressive on it.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:02 am to
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If we do great, but we didn't earn it with anything other than having a talented roster.

Our resume will have absolutely nothing impressive on it.


Neither does Utah, Oregon, Oklahoma or Baylor to this point but you don't seem to be holding that against them.

We just need a bit of luck and belief.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:04 am to
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Neither does Utah, Oregon, Oklahoma or Baylor to this point but you don't seem to be holding that against them.


Utah and Oregon will play eachother and one will win and have that in their pocket

Oklahoma or Baylor will have to play the other twice, and Baylor won at Kansas State

Alabama has Mississippi St, Western Carolina and a 3 loss Auburn team left



I have no desire to finger cross and hope we weasel our way into the playoff after losing the biggest game of the year at home. We had our shot and we blew it. If we get another fine, but I can't sit back and hope for it. Nobody else in America gets that sort of treatment.

Others are welcome to.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:08 am to
Ohio State needs to beat the shite out of everyone they play. And if Minnesota somehow wins out and upsets Ohio State in a close game, it's all over. They'll both get in. We can't have Penn State beat Ohio State. We need Minnesota to lose to Wisconsin or Iowa, just to be safe.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:12 am to
If Oklahoma beats Baylor, then both have a loss. Baylor will still have to play Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma will still have TCU, Okie State (away) and Baylor again.

It's really not impossible for both to end up with two losses.


Utah does play Oregon, but Utah lost to USC and Oregon to Auburn. Hence why if we whip a now top-10 ranked Auburn after they beat a top-10 ranked Georgia it will be a big boost to our resume.


You're putting Oregon and Utah on pedestals but the best team Oregon has beaten are 6-4 disappointments USC and Washington. Utah lost to USC, Washington is their best victory.

It's not entirely impossible for one od these two to drop a game before their championship either.


As, I said, it's a murky path. However there is still a way and I choose to believe
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:16 am to
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both the Pac 12 AND big 12 having 2 losses are slim.


Utah and Oregon only have games against Arizona, Arizona State, UCLA, and Colorado. They're all shitty teams. UCLA has been playing better, with three wins in a row. They play Utah at Utah this Saturday, and we really, really need Chip Kelly to find a way to win that game. They did have that comeback win against Leach at Washington State and also won on the road at Stanford.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:18 am to
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Nobody else in America gets that sort of treatment.


Yeah, they can play no one but Texas A&M while playing in the ACC and stroll in..

They can lose to Auburn, then beat nothing but middle to poor teams and be considered "great".

We lost to the best current team after literally every thing bad could happened, happened in the first half and with that if not for a horrendous out of bounds catch called in. We still win.

I think you should give us a little more credit. You're welcome to you opinion on conceding, but I won't.

I remember not giving up in 2011-12 and that championship wasn't any worse than the others.

We just need a bit of things to go our way. The game lived up to it's hype so I wouldn't be surprised if they want to see a rematch with a healthy Tua.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12220 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:19 am to
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What eye test do we so matter of factly pass?


Bama has destroyed everyone in their 8 wins. The one loss to the number 1 team was a 5 point loss.

OU, Baylor and Utah have struggled to beat bad teams.

Oregon might pass the eye test, but that loss to Auburn will likely cost them.

OU, Baylor, Utah and Oregon have all played bad schedules and have no quality wins either.

Their only quality wins would be each over each other. OU/Baylor and Oregon/Utah.

If Bama gets the 4 seed, they likely play LSU in the Peach Bowl. After watching the 2nd half of the game last night, I like Bama's chances in the rematch.

Bama with a healthy Tua, would have a chance against Ohio St.

Oregon, Baylor, Utah and OU have no chance to beat Clemson, Ohio St or LSU.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:20 am to
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They're all shitty teams. UCLA has been playing better, with three wins in a row. They play Utah at Utah this Saturday, and we really, really need Chip Kelly to find a way to win that game. They did have that comeback win against Leach at Washington State and also won on the road at Stanford.


Yeah I pointed out this in the first post.

If Chip Kelly can get those kids to play up for this game. It will blow things open.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6689 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:22 am to
If Oregon finishes with one loss and a conference championship, I don’t see any way they are left out.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:23 am to
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After watching the 2nd half of the game last night, I like Bama's chances in the rematch.



The 1st half just doesn't matter?

The recent track record of us vs good teams in 1st halves just doesn't matter?

Look I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer here but it's not 2012 anymore. We are not the automatic show up in the playoffs/bowl/SECCG and whip your arse program we were then.
Posted by FWBFLlaw
Member since Aug 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:27 am to
Tell that to OSU who got beat by a 4/5 loss team and went on to win the conference title. They got left out. The precedent is set that they will look at loses. Auburn would be a worse lose than LSU.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:50 am to
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Tell that to OSU who got beat by a 4/5 loss team and went on to win the conference title. They got left out.


Your point is irrelevant to these scenarios, because there were three undefeateds last year, so there was only one spot available for a one loss team. The precedent you're trying to claim doesn't hold, because Oklahoma also was a conference champion. There was only one spot available and there were 2 one-loss champions to choose from.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:00 am to
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If Oregon finishes with one loss and a conference championship, I don’t see any way they are left out.


Why not?

They would have only one win against a good team just like us, yet lost to the team we beat down.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:06 am to
quote:

If Oregon finishes with one loss and a conference championship, I don’t see any way they are left out.


Why not?

They would have only one win against a good team just like us, yet lost to the team we beat down.


I think for most of us the point is that we'd really not like to see the committee be put in a position to have to make that choice. There are too many variables they might think of.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:10 am to
I hope all of these teams get second losses and make it impossible not to pick us.

I just know we're one of the top four. It's amazing how badly we got screwed by officiating and no one even mentions it.

They just want us to lose no matter what.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12220 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:15 am to
quote:

The 1st half just doesn't matter?


It does, but how could Bama play any worse then that in the rematch.

The offense was out of sync. It looked like Tua hadn't practice in a few weeks, which he hadn't.
Posted by Canyon16
Muscle Shoals
Member since Nov 2017
3686 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 10:33 am to
I realize I'm in a minority here but I'll be perfectly fine if we finish the season strong, beat AU, New Years 6 bowl bid, end the season with a bowl victory at 12-1.
I know this is not the every year goal but 12-1 with the worse defense we've had since 07 would be a great accomplishment.
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