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re: PSA regarding this months-long Golding debacle

Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:07 pm to
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I actually upvoted one recently, where he posted a free streaming link for the A-Day game.


You've gone out of your way to mention this several times. Who are you saying this for? Who cares, man? I certainly don't.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:16 pm to
Also, let's be clear, Surge: you are one of my biggest fans. If someone mentions prevatt the poster in a thread, you're Surgy on the Spot with the next bit of commentary about me. Never fails, every time. It's an obsession by definition.

Again, I'm honored that you volunteer this much intellectual and keyboard energy to me. Thank you.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:36 pm to
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I purposefully set out to piss off the folks I piss off. It's on purpose and for a purpose, and do it full knowledge that they may harbor a grudge. Good.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:02 pm to
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I purposefully set out to piss off the folks I piss off. It's on purpose and for a purpose, and do it full knowledge that they may harbor a grudge. Good.


*with full knowledge

Typo. My bad.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:06 pm to
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My bad.

Yep.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:15 pm to
I really want to get you something, Surge. Like a medal or a pretty dress - something to honor you as my biggest fan. I'll keep thinking about it. This level of dedication deserves to be rewarded. Maybe something in my signature...
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:18 pm to
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I really want to get you something, Surge. Like a medal or a pretty dress - something to honor you as my biggest fan. I'll keep thinking about it. This level of dedication deserves to be rewarded. Maybe something in my signature...
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:26 pm to
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I really want to get you something, Surge. Like a medal or a pretty dress - something to honor you as my biggest fan. I'll keep thinking about it. This level of dedication deserves to be rewarded. Maybe something in my signature...

I really want to get you something, Surge. Like a medal or a pretty dress - something to honor you as my biggest fan. I'll keep thinking about it. This level of dedication deserves to be rewarded. Maybe something in my signature...

I really want to get you something, Surge. Like a medal or a pretty dress - something to honor you as my biggest fan. I'll keep thinking about it. This level of dedication deserves to be rewarded. Maybe something in my signature...


Perhaps you should just make a sticky thread about me, Surge. You're obsessed with me more than recruiting. That way you can talk about me and copy my words till your heart's content.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:19 pm to
Perhaps you should RA this phenomenal PSA thread to be stickied at the top of the board so everyone will notice it and benefit immensely. You might grow your fan club even more than you already have and become a more amazing celebrity genius than you already are!

This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 8:39 am
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 12:55 am to
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You might become an even bigger celebrity than you already are, if that's even possible!


You help my celebrity status with every post in which you discuss me. Thank you.

I prefer to talk about Alabama sports. You prefer to talk about me. If you want to continue to talk about me, that's on you. But your obsession with me continues unabated and you are advertising it to everyone who sees every post about me you make. I will continue to point out your obsession as long as you choose to do it.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:04 am
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:54 am to
You are definitely in his head.
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
554 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:12 am to
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I purposefully set out to piss off the folks I piss off. It's on purpose and for a purpose, and do it full knowledge that they may harbor a grudge.

So you do this on purpose because someone doesn't share the same vision or opinion as you? That is kinda arrogant because if someone doesn't think like you, you belittle them and try to "change" their opinion to be more like yours.

You're a very intelligent person but it's getting quite tiring to go into every thread and see the same arguments or bickering just because someone has a different point of view or opinion. You think its helping the board when in reality its killing it. Its pushing people to post less and stay out of conversations because they dont want to deal with the backlash of posting a different point of view.

I've even seen posts where you are pretty much begging for engagement with the topics. Nobody wants to engage with someone that is always right in their mind while anybody that thinks differently is wrong.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 7:22 am
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:45 am to
I really like prevatt but this is spot on.
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
554 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:52 am to
I've got nothing against him and when he actually talks football, you can tell he knows his shite. It's just his posting style of always trying to argue his point gets very tiring
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:44 am to
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You are definitely in his head.

I'm VP of tOfficial prevatt33b.is.MadOnLine Fan Club. I have a glorious prevatt33b fathead at my home/workplace. I'm saving up for a tatoo of it.

This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:43 am
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:30 am to
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So you do this on purpose because someone doesn't share the same vision or opinion as you? That is kinda arrogant because if someone doesn't think like you, you belittle them and try to "change" their opinion to be more like yours


No, I don't want to change people's opinion to be 'like mine.' I'll explain or try to.

On this board, on facebook, on many different posting outlets, there can frequently be a next-level type of bad opinion, and it can be so bad that it has a detrimental effect on society and in this case, on the board.

An example on Facebook would be a post that gets shared from the Washington Examiner (which is not and never has been a legitimate news outlet) that is filled with blatantly incorrect information about Canada's healthcare system, trying to scare people into not voting for Bernie Sanders. The author is a big healthcare lobbyist who wrote a book demonizing Sanders' healthcare plan, and it's all propaganda by misinformation. Sharing this link on Facebook as if it's news is literally bad for the world.

Now here on this website, it's obviously a bit different, as we're talking about Alabama sports, but we're still dealing with the same cross-section of Americans. And no offense to any particular person reading this, but a giant swath of Americans are dumb as a totebag of gravy and are unwilling to think critically. And unfortunately, this anonymous medium that we're using gives the lowest common denominator a voice equal to the educated and informed.

And so yes, I very much believe in standing strongly against opinions that are detrimental to the board, and this Golding crap is a great example. Any critical approach to the evidence says that our defensive woes, where they existed, were primarily a result of injuries in key spots and youth. Can a reasonable person find in the evidence reasons to believe Golding has room to improve? Sure. Does the evidence show that Bama was still a really good defense compared to the rest of CFB? Yes. If Golding was as bad as he's been made out to be, wouldn't Saban have gone in a different direction? Yes.

And so, I'm bringing this up because in the end, the Golding haters were allowed to thrive on this board to the point that this topic has been ruined, and any and all discussion about defensive performance in 2020 has been ruined. A large enough portion of this board has convinced itself that the University of Alabama is going into the 2020 season with one of the worst defensive coordinators in CFB, and this notion will ruin the future discussion of defense. Proper discussion about it will not be possible, as way too many posters have found a nonsensical rallying cry of "everything is Golding's fault" . A logical approach to future evidence has simply been abandoned by a large percentage of posters here as it relates to defense, and I wanted to prevent that from happening.

And so yes, I want and wanted to stamp out this groundswell movement against Golding, not because he doesn't deserve criticism, but because the lowest common denominator posters can have a radical effect on the discussion at hand, pushing it into an extremely unfruitful and flat out incorrect place. For those lowest common denominator posters, confirmation bias is a powerful thing, but if other mindsets and opinions show them strongly enough that their position is faulty, it can be stopped.

I do not expect all to agree with me on this, but it is my explanation.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:35 am
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:44 am to
This thread has been going for several days, and I have ignored it for the reasons you spell out in your post.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:55 am to
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No, I don't want to change people's opinion to be 'like mine.' I'll explain or try to...

Your explanation, PSA and other posts say that is indeed what you want to do. And your posting history demonstrates that you relentlessly try but fail miserably, while trashing up the board via the manner you go about it. You actually cause others to more strongly favor and argue for their own take(s) and oppose yours. You're attempting to transform differences of opinion(s) into a war and delusionally believe you can "win" that war. You spam the board with your confirmation bias-influenced takes, believing and declaring them to be absolute truths with a delusional, hypocritical, arrogant, verbose, hyperbolic, exaggerating, demeaning and insulting schtick -- proclaiming that criticism of Pete Golding's coaching is very unacceptable, unwarranted and born of extreme stupidity and lack of critical thinking ability -- while expecting and even claiming (but always failing miserably) to achieve different results than you've achieved thus far -- aka insanity.

And 3down10, who might be your only real fan, employs antics that are pretty similar to yours. For one, you both frequently restate your version of other posters' statements, adding plenty of exaggerration and hyperbole, and you then ridicule and berate those posters based on your own misleading version of what those posters didn't actually say. When confronted about such antics that we've witnessed you both being guilty of, you both ridiculously deny any such guilt and/or deflect attention away from it. You both demonstrate severe lack of self-awareness, honesty, integrity, decent manners and tolerance for any opinions and evidence that don't align with and support your own confirmation bias-influenced takes, opinions and narratives.

It appears to me, the truth is that you both are as much, if not more, to blame for the situation your PSA post seeks to totally blame on a "group" of "Golding sux" posters you also labeled "Golding haters." It also appears to me that most of them do not hate Pete Golding nor feel fully convinced he's hopelessly destined to fail as Bama's DC/ILB coach. But they do appear to dislike you and 3down10 very much -- not so much due to different opinions about Golding's coaching but more due to your relentless insufferable behavior on this board toward fellow Bama fans. Neither of you have any more authoritative opinions or rights than any of them to dictate or police what or how anyone else should think and post.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:09 am to
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fail miserably


Oh, no sir. This exact thread and others like, and me pointing out repeatedly about how the "Golding Sux" has ruined the discussion will very much get the discussion back on track eventually. Everybody is intimately aware of it now, and the repetition was necessary. Crucial even. All of this is basic psychology.

The reality is that many posters don't like me, and the simple fact is that I'm an a-hole - here on this board. It's a fact. If I had a problem with the resulting reputation, I'd change. But I honestly couldn't care less. This board is not real life. This board is an entertainment venue on the internet. And I choose to sometimes be an a-hole here to people with really bad takes. frick them and frick their takes.

Also, Surge, for the record, it's clear that you are trying to bait me into personally insulting you in order to get me banned, and it will never happen. I will politely point out your obsession into perpetuity. I'll never be gone. I'm here to stay, hoss.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 11:13 am to
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Oh, no sir. This exact thread and others like, and me pointing out repeatedly about how the "Golding Sux" has ruined the discussion will very much get the discussion back on track eventually. Everybody is intimately aware of it now, and the repetition was necessary. Crucial even. All of this is basic psychology.

The reality is that many posters don't like me, and the simple fact is that I'm an a-hole - here on this board. It's a fact. If I had a problem with the resulting reputation, I'd change. But I honestly couldn't care less. This board is not real life. This board is an entertainment venue on the internet. And I choose to sometimes be an a-hole here to people with really bad takes. frick them and frick their takes.

Also, Surge, for the record, it's clear that you are trying to bait me into personally insulting you in order to get me banned, and it will never happen. I will politely point out your obsession into perpetuity. I'll never be gone. I'm here to stay, hoss.

Thanks, hossfly.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 11:28 am
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