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re: Portal & Roster Tracker (see first 2 posts for updated roster info) - PORTAL OPEN 1/2-1/16
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:51 pm to hwyman108
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:51 pm to hwyman108
And they built their team through the portal just like Indiana.
Portal rankings will be more relevant than recruiting rankings moving forward.
Portal rankings will be more relevant than recruiting rankings moving forward.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:55 pm to Sandkhan
Boom
Tell it like it is Ha Ha
Tell it like it is Ha Ha
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:56 pm to TideWarrior
No question it’s the Big 2. But if some smaller schools can build a roster through the portal and contend and even manage a playoff spot then its mission accomplished.
Sure its going to be a blue blood in the mix always but the same blue bloods can be gutted overnight and reigned in a little
Sure its going to be a blue blood in the mix always but the same blue bloods can be gutted overnight and reigned in a little
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:58 pm to crimsoncoded94
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And they built their team through the portal just like Indiana.
Portal rankings will be more relevant than recruiting rankings moving forward.
Indiana had the 25th ranked portal class last year. Portal rankings, like all recruiting rankings, are largely irrelevant since they're just made up by services selling subscriptions.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:01 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Yes but in 2024 cignetti brought all of his good players from JMU. The guy that cracked Tysons ribs was from JMU. Their QB was a transfer. Their RBs both transfers.
I guess I should rephrase my statement. Player evaluation through the portal will be more important than highschool.
50 of their players are transfers
I guess I should rephrase my statement. Player evaluation through the portal will be more important than highschool.
50 of their players are transfers
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:29 pm to hwyman108
quote:I don't think they did at all. I could easily argue that the NIL effects on the larger ($$$) schools have dragged them down to Vandy's level. Still more of roster management than parity.
Did you ever believe Vandy would morph into a potential playoff team, I didn’t.
I will also add that Vandy and Indiana have something in common. They are schools with no real history of success. Kids who go there want to be there and good coaching + coachable plaers = success vs mercenaries. But in the NIL era, success breeds greed and greed = transfer time. Vandy and Indy are just behind everyone for the moment.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:33 pm to Sandkhan
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It’s honestly really interesting that Ha-Ha would say this publicly. I’m torn between appreciating the honesty and feeling maybe this is something you don’t say in case you want some of them back.
Bray's dad supports the message
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You have to get studs not depth players. Problem is that cost big dollars.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:46 pm to Bamadiver
Indiana definitely raised themselves up with the Cignetti hire. You could argue that they were making a bigger institutional commitment to football for a decade prior to Cignetti too. Tom Allen had some success there but was not able to maintain it after the pandemic. They were steadily improving in the late 2010s...
HOWEVER
On the balance, I believe what we are seeing is the fall of the blue bloods in this new world order of college football. There are individual exceptions to this but on the balance I think we're seeing the top come to the middle more than the middle coming to the top. The quality of play at the very top is worse than it was before the pandemic.
I've said it before but I truly believe that not a single champion since 2021 could beat any of the four CFP participants from 2019. I believe a sizable chunk of the top 10 in the final AP poll from 2019 would do the same (LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Georgia, and Alabama).
HOWEVER
On the balance, I believe what we are seeing is the fall of the blue bloods in this new world order of college football. There are individual exceptions to this but on the balance I think we're seeing the top come to the middle more than the middle coming to the top. The quality of play at the very top is worse than it was before the pandemic.
I've said it before but I truly believe that not a single champion since 2021 could beat any of the four CFP participants from 2019. I believe a sizable chunk of the top 10 in the final AP poll from 2019 would do the same (LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Georgia, and Alabama).
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:51 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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You have to get studs not depth players. Problem is that cost big dollars.
Which costs more? Buying a stud player $1-3mm for a single year of production OR
Paying a 5star recruit $500k first year, $750K 2nd year, and then $1mm plus to keep him on the roster to avoid transferring? And that doesn't even consider the resources spent developing the player
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:52 pm to Ten Bears
No telling what we've spent for Ryan Williams in 2 seasons.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
quote:Didn't hurt that he brought the team with him for sure.
Indiana definitely raised themselves up with the Cignetti hire.
I do agree that parity is the eventuality but right now that's not what is happening. And the blue bloods will always have the money. It's the little guys that will get kids that want to get coached up and move on that will pop up a la Indy/Vandy.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:01 pm to crimsoncoded94
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No telling what we've spent for Ryan Williams in 2 seasons.
We’ve got people transferring left and right and y’all are still fixated on one of the only kids who seems to genuinely love Alabama
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:08 pm to Sandkhan
I didnt mean that negatively, just using his price point.
Thats what its going to cost for a top recruit yearly.
Ive been negative on him but when he said he was all Bama i respect that.
Thats what its going to cost for a top recruit yearly.
Ive been negative on him but when he said he was all Bama i respect that.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:13 pm to Sandkhan
It’s real simple guys. Look who is prospering in the portal era. Teams that have money, but don’t necessarily have a history in college football. Texas Tech certainly wouldn’t qualify as a blue blood. Neither would Indiana, Ole Miss, or SMU last year. The coaches who have figured it out, are building their team through the portal with diamonds in the rough, older, more experienced players, with the super talented overpriced, five star being fools gold. You are seeing the entitled four and five star kids who don’t have a good work ethic become players that you can’t afford to have or to pamper. I don’t care if Ohio State or Georgia signed the number one recruiting class for the next five years, they’re not going to do that and win a championship solely based on that alone. Welcome to the new age of college football, where free agency and parity and deep pocket make this like a mini NFL with basically no rules to govern free agency or player acquisition and experience trumps just about everything and want-to makes up the difference.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:14 pm to crimsoncoded94
I’m in the minority on this probably but I’m not down on the kid and whatever he’s making is what was agreed on. It’s not what you deserve it’s what you negotiate.
If ever there was a player to hit the portal to rebrand himself and get a fresh start it would be him. But it’s a smart decision on his part to stay. Life after football in the state of Alabama for a star player status can earn a very nice income and a comfortable life.
If ever there was a player to hit the portal to rebrand himself and get a fresh start it would be him. But it’s a smart decision on his part to stay. Life after football in the state of Alabama for a star player status can earn a very nice income and a comfortable life.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:23 pm to hwyman108
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:34 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
seems to me that cfb is headed for the nascar model where everyone drives the same car, just different stickers. then the committee picks the winners.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:37 pm to crimsontater
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:45 pm to hwyman108
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But if some smaller schools can build a roster through the portal and contend and even manage a playoff spot then its mission accomplished.
g6 programs are going to be feeder/farm programs. Relationships are going to be important with the smaller schools like JUCOs were in the past to develop players before they moved on.
My guess is the reason for the playoff expansion has stalled is to make it harder for a g6 team to get in. I would wager they will no longer an auto bid but an at large bid only based on a high enough ranking.
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