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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:16 am to
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I have serious doubts Tejas beats uga this weekend.
Oregon has won all their games, but would anyone be surprised if they lost to PennSt? I wouldn't.
Uga has the best coach (supposedly) and the most talented (except qb, rb, secondary, and especially wr).
OhioSt managed 10 points at home to a team Tejas beat like a gong.
Tenner is the weakest team on this list.
BAMA is jekyll and hyde, but does have the most dynamic player on the list.

My guess is that the Top 5 on this list want to play #6 the least.


Oregon has a QB who has played a ton of football and they are a fairly talented and well-coached team.

Ohio State has the most talented roster but the coaching staff I have the least respect.

UGA has significant deficiencies on the backend of their defense and a bit slower at backer than in the past. Also their offense is not particularly dynamic with a lack of top talent at WR and RB.

I consider Alabama and Tennessee the dark horses of the credible threats. Both have QBs that are high ceiling, low floor players. However, Tennessee has a much better tailback run game. Tennessee is going to be a tough out because their defense is great and they can play a low-risk run-heavy offense if necessary.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:17 am to
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I watched them struggle and eke out a win in Madison over Wisconsin 16-13.


The alleged third best team in America also had a one point lead over Wisconsin in the 4th quarter...
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 10:19 am
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:19 am to
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I don't, but I will be curious if we are in a tight game where Jalen is displaying clear signs of Tennessee/Oklahoma if he has more urgency to give something else a try or not, as opposed to the regular season.


Interesting point, but that would make sense if we had seen Ty (or someone else) at least once during the season for a series or 2.

The fact that Ty (or others) had ZERO snaps when the game was still on the line is a pretty big indication of Deboer's thoughts.

Right or wrong, the past is prologue.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:21 am to
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We'll soon know how serious Kalen DeBoer actually is about winning this.


You expecting KDB to trot out a first time starter for CFB playoffs ?


Well maybe. Saban put in a first time, second half starter for a national championship game against Georgia.

Deboer doesn't have to follow that model. If he chooses, he can forward think on this and take the next few weeks to prep someone else. He doesn't have to wait for Jalen Milroe to lose bowel function all over the frickin' field.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:25 am to
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Saban put in a first time, second half starter for a national championship game against Georgia.


Totally different circumstance. We had data with Tua. We have none of that with Ty.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:25 am to
He won't mess up team spirit by starting someone else but he will put in Mack if Milroe falters.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:38 am to
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Mack is ready.


Look, if you think a 3rd or 4th team quarterback is better than Milroe, I won't argue I guess. Maybe he is.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:39 am to
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Not Likely:

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Penn State


You can move these two to the No Wqy section. Neither is capable of stringing together four consecutive wins against top ranked teams.

Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
3845 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:40 am to
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Look, if you think a 3rd or 4th team quarterback is better than Milroe, I won't argue I guess. Maybe he is.



It's a bit.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:47 am to
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Saban put in a first time, second half starter for a national championship game against Georgia.


Totally different circumstance. We had data with Tua. We have none of that with Ty.


Well we don't, but the coaching staff does. And it's not that different of a situation at all. Jalen Milroe is an objectively terrible quarterback. He's really bad at it and as the season has worn on, he's only worsened.

Everyone involved in the football program, right down to the guy who does the floors, knows Jalen Milroe absolutely, positively will not win a national championship. Deboer can follow the Saban model and pull him when all hope at winning is nearly lost, or he can prep Ty Simpson now.

He'll probably follow the Saban model.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:50 am to
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Oregon has a QB who has played a ton of football and they are a fairly talented and well-coached team.


I don't disagree, but their schedule was VERY favorable. Oregon is very susceptible to the run. Jeanty nearly went for 2 bills. OhSt's back went for 87 when their qb threw for 300+. Purdue's back went for 93 on 11 carries. Sconnie's back went for 97. Idk. I just think that teams don't run the ball as much because Oregon has been able to build leads in games. Not that that's a bad thing. But the close games were when teams were able to run the ball with the exception being Purdue. That game was never close.
I don't think Oregon is going to crush PennSt at all. I think state will try to run the ball, play keep away, use that NFL tight end they have and try to keep Oregon from building a big lead off of turnovers.

I'm not sure Oregon could stop BAMA's rushing attack like OU did. Not sure Oregon could stop Tenner's power rushing attack or their qb. Especially if everybody is healthy for tenner. I do think tenner is the weakest team in the playoff of the power 5 except maybe Indiana. I just think they match up well vs Oregon. As does uga and BAMA. OhioSt was a fluke penalty loophole from having a chance at a game winning FG. And OhioSt isn't elite.

If uga doesn't turn the ball over and they don't have to play BAMA, I think they have the best odds to make it, especially if they get the first round bye like I think they will.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14351 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:51 am to
I would hope /imagine that our QBs are coached up as well as they can be and can come in if need be . They are one twisted ankle away from having g to play. We have played 12 games….. they better be ready
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:51 am to
This is a bit of the future, probably the present.

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If Milroe leaves before the playoffs. Ty is going to to go compete for the USC spot or at UCF with Lincoln cause he excels with the running QB. Mack has it all arm talent, leadership and height. He may take it now.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:49 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:54 am to
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Interesting point, but that would make sense if we had seen Ty (or someone else) at least once during the season for a series or 2.

The fact that Ty (or others) had ZERO snaps when the game was still on the line is a pretty big indication of Deboer's thoughts.

Right or wrong, the past is prologue.


Agree - this does not seem to be anywhere close to a Tua situation where the staff felt good about him. The staff doesn't seem to think that any of the backups are right there with Jalen at this point.

However, if we're down 17-7 in the 3rd and Jalen is a deer in the headlights with no possibility of moving forward, I wonder if they'd throw a hail mary and give it a shot. You never know.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:56 am to
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This is a bit of the future, probably the present.


Mack's physical tools are undeniable. Our seats are in the north endzone and I've watched the QBs go through their entire routine 3 times this year, and his velocity and spin are both the easiest out of his hand of the group and the most impressive. His accuracy comes and goes a bit, but his pure tools are incredible.

He's also now 2 years into the system, and while you can probably discount that by .5/1 years due to the initial youth and limited competition he came in with, he's at a point where you'd hope he was comfortable mentally with the system and everything else.

Will be a very interesting spring.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:56 am to
ThAt BaLL wAs A wObBLy wOuNdEd DuCk. NoT a TiGhT sPiRaL. Do NoT wAnT!!
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7670 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:59 am to
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He's also now 2 years into the system,

He's also not done growing or filling out his weight.

Mack is definitely the immediate future qb. That pass to Rico Scott was an absolute dime. Right over the defender's head and into the bucket. Couldn't have handed it to him any better.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
23870 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:00 am to
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Milroe can get hot.

Let's be honest. That doesn't happen all that much anymore. Against 8 SEC teams he's looked hot vs UGA for a half, Vandy, and LSU. Missouri, AU, and USC he looked average at best. He was bad vs OU and absolutley awful vs Tenn.

Closest we've got in awhile was the LSU game and their crap defense combined with how stupidly they play him was a big reason.

That being said yes DeBoer isn't and shouldn't bench him. If they were going to bench him it should've been during OU game in the 2nd half. But my point is he's more likely to be mediocre or worse rather than good ESPECIALLY on the road.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:10 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:01 am to
HE WAS TRYING NOT TO HURT RICO!!! A PERFECT SPIRAL WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM AT THAT SPEED!!! THAT'S WHAT LEADERS DO, MEET YOUR TEAMMATES WHERE THEY ARE!!
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
14274 posts
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:01 am to
Sorry for yelling. I really care about this.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:02 am
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