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re: Our coach isn't living up to the standard and process he established and demanded.

Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19222 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:59 pm to
Somebody off the radar, even assistant coach.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5998 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:07 pm to
People think he can’t coach anymore because he doesn’t go off on the sideline like he used to. How many coaches do you see going off on the sidelines? None. There are dozens of good to great coaches who don’t act like Saban used to.

You know what? Maybe quality coaches and players stopped wanting to be a part of the program because they can coach or play somewhere else and not get embarrassed on the sidelines. That right there might be reason enough to chill out.

In the end, Saban has won championships and had championship caliber teams without ranting and raving. He doesn’t have to do it to win.

He was two key injuries away from going back to back in 2021.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I was going to say, this may be a "careful what you wish for" moment for a lot of people on this board.

I heard a lot of similar things over the years. Saban was washed after the 2018 title game and then not making the playoffs the next season. Then he came back with one of the best teams he ever fielded in 2020. He was done after the A&M loss and close Iron Bowl win the next year. Blew out UGA and made the title game again.

I'm weirdly optimistic, and won't believe Saban is ready to hang it up until he does.

This thread may prove to be a real gem to bookmark.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14351 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:35 pm to
Yep. Some are too young to remember the lean years I guess
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to
Saban has put together a fairly putrid staff by his own standards. There is no one on this staff that is going to be poached by another program or leave for a HC job. There are no analysts in the program with extensive resumes that are ready to be moved into an on the field role and then onto greater things.

The team is undisciplined. Lots of mental errors in blocking from the offense and from the QBs. Tons of penalties.

Lots and lots of excuses. More talking about getting better than I can ever remember by orders of magnitude. Just talk talk talk.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
354 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:13 pm to
Give it a few weeks when the losses start to pile up and just sit back and enjoy the blame game starting up inside the football building. Should be an interesting show and probably beat product on the field this year.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14351 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:29 pm to
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Saban has put together a fairly putrid staff by his own standards. There is no one on this staff that is going to be poached by another program or leave for a HC job.


Off the top of your head , can you name another team who has a staff full of future HCs?
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5998 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Off the top of your head , can you name another team who has a staff full of future HCs?


If they do, they won’t for long.

Saban has done an incredible job of bringing in quality coaches. Most of them are now head coaches. We get mad because of a dearth of quality guys.

Saban tried a long-haul approach with Golding. Didn’t work out. If it had, he could’ve had a good staff member for several years instead of two and done.

Saban is playing 3d chess while Finebaum and trolls are playing Candyland.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
354 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:54 pm to
BoB and Golding don’t count as good coaches. And the new coaches aren’t great either. Face it saban is in the inevitable decline. When is the last time a coach his age has won a national championship?
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:01 pm to
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That's no longer the case. The Najee story illustrates that perfectly.


For whatever reason, Saban totally kissed Najee's arse. Kinda signaled a change after that 2020 season. Saban offered up his nutsack to appear woke. He hasn't been feared by players since. Downvote all you want... it's true.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
2587 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:06 pm to
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Dan Enos straight up ghosted Saban. Screw that guy


This.

Dan Enos is a huge pussy and a general piece of shite.
Posted by CrimsonBuddha
Member since Apr 2023
625 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:38 pm to
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Saban needs to retire at the end of the year. He is a net negative to the program now

I cannot believe this has 7 upvotes. People are fricking INSANE these days. Holy shite
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2026 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:37 pm to
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He is a net negative to the program now.


Look, we’ve all got our issues with how things are going right now, and Saban bears some blame for that, certainly. But holy crap, does anyone realize how LONG we would have to be terrible in order for Nick freaking Saban to be a net negative?

He will be long gone before he is ever that.
Posted by LucedaleTider
Lucedale
Member since Sep 2022
354 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:47 pm to
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Saban offered up his nutsack to appear woke. He hasn't been feared by players since. Downvote all you want... it's true.


Truth
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:50 pm to
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Marktastic86

quote:

I'm weirdly optimistic,

That's about the best way to put it. I'm certainly in the camp of trusting the old ball coach than believing it's really over. There are some frustrating things happening in the program as of late that don't look good, but I still believe there is enough "make his arse quit" left in Saban to stay at the top.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:08 pm to
This place is obsessed with fear..

Respect trumps fear and Saban has all of the respect.

We haven't won because he has mad bad coordinator hires and bad positions hires; not because NIL, fear or whatever fans on the outside think is the issue.

We went on a tremendous run because we had fantastic coordinators and postiona coaches who developed our talent and gameplanned so well we were so confident to kill each opponent come game day.

Now we have anxiety.. why? Players obviously aren't confident in the people leading them and their plan they want them to execute
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5998 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:09 pm to
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When is the last time a coach his age has won a national championship?


You do understand that this is a logical fallacy, right?
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
15257 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:03 pm to
Nick Saban on Jalen Milroe: 'He's got nothing to prove here. He's our guy.'

"He's the guy that I have confidence in. … I think in the end, this will make him better."

(via @PatMcAfeeShow) LINK pic.twitter.com/WbaAEZrgP8

— Charlie Potter (@Charlie_Potter) September 21, 2023
Posted by MySabanPlease
Member since Sep 2023
240 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:29 pm to
Question: what caused Saban to do a complete 180 on Milroe immediately following the players only meeting?

This comment combined with his quotes from when he named Milroe the starter do not align with common sense.

Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:39 pm to
Bama is a top 10 program playing like a 25th-30th ranked program, maybe worse. That’s on Saban. The poor staff, the undisciplined play, that’s on Saban. Whatever made him successful in the past isn’t working.

In baseball terms, it’s a case of looking at WAR. Saban is negative in that respect. I think half a dozen coaches in the SEC would do a better job than Saban has done this year and I see no reason to think he’s going to get any better. He’s not putting a complement product on the field.
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