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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:41 pm to
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And what about the medical schools across the rest of the world? I guess they were just following the lead of top world power America circa 1900? Because last I checked you aren't told to gargle silver and rub lavender oil all over yourself to cure cancer in Europe either.



So you've been researching whether lavender oil body rubs are used for cancer treatment in Europe?

Here's a natural protocol -- that works much better than that and the deadly chemo and radiation therapy cancer treatments in the U.S., which seriously damage your immune system and health, and actually cause cancer, but they're the legal Rx in an FDA supported multibillion dollar industry --
Why Cancer can t survive the Budwig diet - budwigcenter.com

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Because most of it IS ineffective snake oil and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. Essential oils do not cure fricking cancer. Turning on a damn diffuser is not going to prevent you from contracting COVID-19. Neither is ingesting silver. Telling people they have nothing to worry about if they buy some shite on Amazon and put two drops of it under their tongue every morning is stupid and dangerous.

I didn't even mention essential oils, but you keep on doing it. Colloidal silver has been used for centuries. It works well and is safe to use. Your own ignorance leads you to ironically call it stupid and dangerous of me to use and recommend something proven to work very effectively and safely.

You sound as poorly informed (via mainstream media), hyperbolic and adamant as pretvatt33b, and my dead younger brother who opted for his cancer causing diet and lifestyle and then wouldn't consider trying the Budwig diet to treat his cancer, but was told by his oncologist that ineffective and deadly chemotherapy was his only hope. Everyone gets to make their own lifestyle and healthcare choices. So, believe and do what you want with your life.
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So explain why doctors instruct people with heart problems to change their diet and exercise habits and refer them to nutritionists in addition to prescribing them something that is going to work in the short term to make sure they don't suddenly die.

I didnt say Big Pharma and MDs don't provide any effective life saving treatments or advice.

Explain why the FDA supports production and sale of GMO crops/produce loaded with cancer causing Roundup and unhealthy processed foods with harmful chemical additives without even mandating warning labels. Explain why much of the rest of world has banned farming with Monsanto's Patented GMO seeds and their cancer causing Roundup herbicide and the sale of that produce. Explain why U.S. farmers growing crops organically were successfully sued in U.S. courts by Monsanto for infringement of Monsanto's patents (and near monopoly) on GMO crop seeds in the U.S. when their organic crops got cross-pollinated (contaminated) by nearby GMO crops. Explain why I have to pay so much more for economically grown naturally healthy "organic" non-GMO foods than for the more costly grown unhealthy GMO crap. Btw, Monsanto also produces deadly cancer-causing chemicals for chemotherapy, as well as the flouride salts added to municipal water, which calcifies the pineal gland How to Decalcify Your Pineal Gland (And Why It's Really Important).

Let me guess. It's all tinfoil hat conspiracy theories?

ETA: There's really no point in us debating this stuff anymore.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:13 pm to
Up to 51 cases.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:31 pm to
25 in Jefferson County.
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 5:00 pm to
As of the moment, it appears Mercedes is preparing to at least scale back production.
To what extent is unclear at this moment.
Just rumor stuff
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 5:05 pm to
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When did you research cancer treatments in Europe?


Here's an article discussing the advances in cancer treatment in Europe. No mention of cottage cheese.

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Here's a natural protocol -- that works much better than the decades old ineffective standard chemo and radiation therapy cancer treatments in the U.S., which seriously damage your immune system, health and actually cause cancer --


There is scant evidence that the Budwig diet (named after a chemist, not a medical doctor btw) effectively treats cancer and you should not be telling people it works unless you can back those claims up with that evidence, which you can't because 0 clinical trials of the Budwig diet have ever been conducted, even by the creator of it herself.

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I didn't recommend or even mention essential oils


You did however tell someone to take colloidal silver (which I also mentioned) to prevent COVID-19, which is both irresponsible and dangerous. Essential oils fall under the same umbrella. Crap that doesn't actually work the way you think it does.

And Monsanto's shady litigation tactics have nothing to do with fricking medicine so I have no idea why you feel the need to talk about them.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 5:16 pm to
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I am not as well versed as some in here but I was of the understanding you had to be referred for testing.


When they opened up these drive through testing units in Birmingham, they said there was no outside referral required. A physician on there would ask you some questions, gauge your symptoms and give you the test if they matched with COVID-19.

There is one at Trussville Urgent Care, as well, but they are asking that you call ahead before you drive in.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 5:20 pm to
I can't even take your remarks seriously.

The reporting you posted is limited to chemotherapy R&D in Europe.

I didnt tell anyone what to do. I posted testimony of my own, and my father's, personal anecdotal experiences with using colloidal silver for many years to successfully and safely prevent and kill viral infections, and said "I recommend considering it." You chose to state your unsubstatiated opinion that it's a dangerous thing to do -- apparently because you personally refuse to believe any natural substances can help prevent or cure illness.

There's lot's of evidence that the Budwig diet works. I know (and know of) people who cured their own cancer permanently via the Budwig protocol diet. One of them is my very good friend, Linda Kedy, who wrote this excellent book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20935108-cancer-is-great-for-your-health

Avoiding and countering root causes of illnesses (such as GMO produce) has A LOT to do with preventing the illnesses they cause.

For example, if you eat too many sweets, you'll increase your chances of getting diabetes. If you don't eat a lot of them, you'll reduce your chances of becoming diabetic. Deprive yourself of good nutrition and exercise, eat a lot of unhealthy foods, ingest and absorb a lot of toxins and your health will decline significantly. It's why so many Americans are overweight and unhealthy. Facts, Robot.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 11:09 am
Posted by Contra
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 5:36 pm to
Alabama public health doesn't list it, but there's now a case down here in Dothan (Houston County) from an out of stater.

https://www.wtvy.com/content/news/Coronavirus-case-at-Southeast-Health-confirmed-568900611.html
Posted by Fleurs
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 6:57 pm to
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here are known effective and proven natural preventions and cures for pretty much every illness -- including cancer.


lol, oh no. one of those.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 7:51 pm to
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I didnt tell anyone what to do. I posted testimony of my own, and my father's, personal experiences with using colloidal silver for many years to successfully and safely prevent and kill viral infections, and said "I highly recommend it."


You stated definitively that it would result in your being immune from COVID-19.

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You chose to state your unsubstatiated opinion that it's a dangerous thing to do -- apparently because you personally refuse to believe any natural substances can prevent or cure illness.


If by unsubstantiated you mean scientifically supported then sure. Telling people that if they take some damn silver supplements they aren't at risk is absolutely fricking insane.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:03 pm to
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You stated definitively that it would result in your being immune from COVID-19.

Nope. I didnt even use the word immune. I very clearly said I won't get COVID-19 if I'm exposed to it. I also made it clear I'm very confident about that, due to my personal experience with using a specific colloidal silver product to kill virus cells in my body when I was exposed to a virus or started getting symptoms, thereby preventing viral infections. I was very clear about all of that and then said I recommend considering it.

It's not dangerous to use it properly. If someone else decides (based on my post) to buy and use it properly, that won't increase their risk of getting COVID-19, nor will it cause adverse side effects.

Honestly, I do think you are much more likely to get it than I am if we're both exposed to it. Then you can go see your Dr., get tested to confirm you have it, go stay at home and take meds to help reduce fever and other symptoms and still feel somewhat crappy while the virus runs its course in your body. I pray you and your loved ones are healthy enough to survive it on your own.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
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i didnt use the word immune.


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I said I won't get COVID-19 if I'm exposed to it.


So you're saying you are immune to it.
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I am not saying that I am Batman, but we have never been seen in the same room at the same time.
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:46 pm to
Nightly update


Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:58 pm to
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So you're saying you are immune to it.

Nope. You keep insisting I claim to be immune to COVID-19. I dont think you really understand what the word "immune" means. I've never said that. I said I can use a certain colloidal silver solution to prevent myself from becoming actively infected by virtually any virus. If I'm exposed to the virus and it enters my body, the ionic silver nanoparticles will kill the virus cells inside my body. It's a pretty simple concept really. Effectively, it's similar to antibiotics that kill bacteria. Ionic silver nanoparticles kill infectious bacteria and viruses, quickly. And the pathogens can't develop resistance to silver like some can with antibiotics. About the only risk or side effect is if too much silver is ingested for too long, some of it can get deposited in skin, hair and fingernails, resulting in a mild blue coloration. But that's just temporary and it's actually very rare, because it's only caused by using too much for too long (i.e., overdosing), which isn't directed or necessary at all to kill an infection. It works quickly.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:15 pm to
Pretty big jump at the 8:53 update

Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46214 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:25 pm to
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You keep insisting I claim to be immune to COVID-19. I dont think you really understand what that word immune means.


I think one of us definitely doesn't understand what immune means, but it isn't me.

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I've never said that. I said I can use a certain colloidal silver solution to prevent myself from becoming actively infected by virtually any virus if I'm exposed to the virus and it enters my body.


Soooooo, immune?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:37 pm to
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"I think one of us definitely doesn't understand what immune means, but it isn't me. Soooooo, immune?"

It's very obvious that you don't understand what "immune" means.
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im·mu·ni·ty: The ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

If my body truly had immunity to a virus, such as COVID-19, that means it could/would produce antibodies or sensitized white blood cells to kill the virus cells -- and I wouldn't need to use any substance, such as colloidal silver, to kill them.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 10:20 am
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