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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:44 pm to wm72
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:44 pm to wm72
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Speaking of California in getting back to the coronavirus topic.
Their death rate during this has been remarkably low.
For an area that ranked extremely high on every metric that increased spread and death rate:
Densely populated cities with large "at-risk" numbers like SF, Oakland, LA ect
Expansive tourist/business travel
Tons of travel from China when this was spreading
They've had better success than almost anywhere in the world in keeping all their numbers remarkably low.
Not sure what all they did differently but it was obviously effective.
This may be part of the reason.
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California said it had results for 143,172 tests
Only have results which determine who has it out of almost 40 million people says a lot.
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362 per 100,000 people. That’s a sharp increase from two weeks ago when just 39 of every 100,000 residents had been tested.
That is scary based on the data you were referencing that they are this far behind on testing with that many people.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:31 pm to TideWarrior
EDIT: Sorry, I just realized the point you were making. I meant their extremely low death rate in terms of total population not compared to tested cases. I should have been more clear in the post above.
California has had less than 20 deaths per million inhabitants; NY has had over 440.
That number for California is lower than most rural states (without an SF, LA, Oakland, SD etc). California was considered the potential #1 hot spot in the country along with NYC in early March due to reasons above.
I think the death rate + hospitalization is a much better indicator since people have been basically begged to NOT come get tested unless absolute emergency in so many places.
Sure that over 90% of people in NY that had this virus without life threatening conditions have listened to that message and stayed home, untested.
California was very clear from the beginning on not wanting people traveling around to get tested.
California has had less than 20 deaths per million inhabitants; NY has had over 440.
That number for California is lower than most rural states (without an SF, LA, Oakland, SD etc). California was considered the potential #1 hot spot in the country along with NYC in early March due to reasons above.
I think the death rate + hospitalization is a much better indicator since people have been basically begged to NOT come get tested unless absolute emergency in so many places.
Sure that over 90% of people in NY that had this virus without life threatening conditions have listened to that message and stayed home, untested.
California was very clear from the beginning on not wanting people traveling around to get tested.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:40 pm to wm72
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:01 pm to TidalSurge1
And yet Trump wants to open the country on May 1st...
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:08 pm to Panthers4life
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And yet Trump wants to open the country on May 1st...
I don't think that can be done safely without the ability to vaccinate people and without the ability to promptly and effectively quarantine, test and treat all people who get infected. At this juncture, the shutdowns are the only means of keeping it from spreading more than it has.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:11 pm to TidalSurge1
Mississippi governor wants it sooner than that
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:15 pm to TidalSurge1
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I don't think that can be done safely without the ability to vaccinate people and without the ability to promptly and effectively treat everyone who gets the infection.
Not until new daily cases are so low that contact tracing and testing can be effective. That may be sometime in June, or late May but probably not May 1st.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:54 pm to TidalSurge1
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I don't think that can be done safely without the ability to vaccinate people and without the ability to promptly and effectively treat everyone who gets the infection.
I would settle for just being able to buy hand sanitizer and alcohol before May 1st.
Seriously though, I hope that more businesses in more rural areas can begin opening by then. I know a lot of people in places like Alabama are struggling. My brother has a refrigerator trucking company based in Luverne with only 1 truck running since finding any broker who has any idea how to get him grocery store loads instead of restaurant ones has seemingly proven impossible. Sure there's a ton of people in his situation.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:09 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Connecticut’s numbers are not good. 5M fewer people and not quite as densely populated compared to NJ, yet 1K more expected deaths
CT is basically a bedroom community for people who work in NYC
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:21 pm to 14&Counting
Isn’t NJ too? Connecticut is going to have by far the worst death toll on a per capita in the US
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:40 pm to 1BamaRTR
If we could test, we could stay out in front of it and relax the restrictions. But getting more and better testing out there has been a complete and utter failure on everyone's part. It's been promised for weeks, but still isn't showing up in any great numbers. How about playing the DPA card for tests and get the damn things out there where we can identify and isolate and treat and stop this paralysis?
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 7:55 am to Cobrasize
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Fatalities per million
Wow, that's a great chart. Sort of mirrors how it "feels" in regards to other countries that we know have been more greatly affected. The focus on total cases irrespective of population can be misleading, IMO.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:24 am to JustGetItRight
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The federal judge granted the plaintiffs' motion for an emergency hearing on their request for a preliminary injunction. In plain terms, he bought their argument that the issue was too time sensitive to wait on the regular schedule. Can't really read anything into how the case will play out, but in football terms those suing the county just scored on their opening possession.
Huckabee and his pals lost their injunction hearing.
LINK
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:46 am to The Spleen

This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 8:49 am
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
Coronavirus couldn’t stand up to the grind of an SEC schedule
Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:03 am to FairhopeTider
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Coronavirus couldn’t stand up to the grind of an SEC schedule
It was begging for a bye week
Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:18 am to paperwasp
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The focus on total cases irrespective of population can be misleading
I said this before last month but people are just going to look at total numbers of cases/deaths to determine who is doing the worst. Since the US has by far the most, so many people around the world assume the US is doing the worst. They’re not looking at per capita and they’re not looking at how little tests so many countries have even done.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
Like everything, nothing is as bad as it seems and nothing is as good as it seems.
Going to walk a tightrope here. The Coronavirus is a serious deal. This wasn’t some hoax or “just the flu.” If we didn’t do any mitigation then it would really be bad. However, I think we’ve seen an overreaction on several levels. We’ve seen states like Alabama get pressured into stay at home orders when it wasn’t necessary. I think we’ve seen local officials use the opportunity to get podium time and have a power trip. We’ve seen copycat leadership because officials don’t want to be the only hold out and suffer the wrath of Karens. So on and so forth.
This is hindsight and easy to say now, but I think we could’ve had some more thoughtful measures that maybe wouldn’t have harmed our economy so bad.
Basically this was an event that needed to be taken seriously but we got the unnecessary overreaction that comes with an ice day in the south on top of it.
Going to walk a tightrope here. The Coronavirus is a serious deal. This wasn’t some hoax or “just the flu.” If we didn’t do any mitigation then it would really be bad. However, I think we’ve seen an overreaction on several levels. We’ve seen states like Alabama get pressured into stay at home orders when it wasn’t necessary. I think we’ve seen local officials use the opportunity to get podium time and have a power trip. We’ve seen copycat leadership because officials don’t want to be the only hold out and suffer the wrath of Karens. So on and so forth.
This is hindsight and easy to say now, but I think we could’ve had some more thoughtful measures that maybe wouldn’t have harmed our economy so bad.
Basically this was an event that needed to be taken seriously but we got the unnecessary overreaction that comes with an ice day in the south on top of it.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 10:51 am
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