re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

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An epidemiologist told Business Insider that countries might need to impose new lockdowns every three months until a vaccine is available. Lifting lockdown measures could lead to a re-emergence of the virus. As residents emerge from their homes, go to work, take their children to school, and go shopping, people could be asymptomatic but still spread the novel virus to others.

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That sounds about right unfortunately. Unless y'all are OK with Google providing 10-15 days worth of your location data to the government then the test, trace, and selectively quarantine measures the South Koreans have employed can't really work.

No one is going to agree to that

For the record, the hydroxychloroquine data combined with the research I've done into real world usage appears to show that if you get the drug before the virus takes hold and trashes your lungs, it works. If you don't get it until you're ready for ventilation, good luck buddy.

In an nutshell, if you have symptoms and are still ambulatory but getting worse, you need the hydroxychloroquine. But there are still many restrictions in place on it requiring a positive test. But the catch 22 is testing is still hard to qualify for so how do you get a positive test? If they wait till you are hospitalized, it's a race against the clock whether it helps or not. If you are already ventilated, probably too late.

If you want to data mine, this is a great site

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These stay orders are unconstitutional. Come at me.

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No they are not. Neither is individual quarantine orders. They were used frequently in the last century. Your constitutional rights don't override the need for public safety and health. You don't have the right to endanger others.

That is what makes the accusation so confusing when it happens . My guess is it is just a defense mechanism.

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Really?

I would think you would be regarded as the most level head poster here by most other posters

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I agree with this. I have a ton of respect for Carlton. I wish that I could handle myself half as well as he does.

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While marijuana use is not yet legal in North Carolina, use of marijuana recreationally or medically is legal in many states. Studies show, however, that even occasional use of marijuana can increase risk of COVID-19 complications. Officials urged people who have been using marijuana to ease anxiety during COVID-19 to be cautious.

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Oh Well this just got real

Thanks Phil.

This has to be taken in perspective but I think there is some encouraging signs based on the Worldometer numbers for this week. We jumped up at the beginning of the week to about 33,000 new cases a day and a little less than 2000 deaths a day. Not great by any stretch but we have been consistently in that range for the last 3-4 days. I was expecting some spikes this week and hopefully what we have seen is some leveling in the places where we are testing. Also we have gotten our testing up over 7000 test per million. I would really like to see us double that as the countries who looked to have managed Covid the best or who leveled off after bad starts tested around at least 10000 per million with many being much higher. I think if we do that, provide resources so our hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and continue to develop medical strategies to combat COVID we can really put a dent in the expected next wave.

ETA: A few people mentioned an outbreak in a nursing home earlier. Most of you already know this but if you check local news across the country, the nursing home outbreaks are rampant. If you have a relative living in or a family or friend working for a nursing home make sure you reach out to them and provide support.