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re: Opinion on the Sark

Posted on 12/21/19 at 12:09 am to
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/21/19 at 12:09 am to
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the guy coached players that didn’t need a coach.


Was that because Locksley had them ready for Sark?


The pass tree of offense became very different upon his arrival.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 1:34 am to
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Same stupid play calls inside the Red Zone that he did with the Falcons. 1st & gol at the 2 against Auburn. No I won't run that brute that got us down here. I will call some Lane Kiffin cute 2014 against OSU type play action pass that gives the game away.


Did you watch the game or just highlights?

He ran the ball, they stuffed it. They were sending all out run blitzs so only an absolute moron would think the right play call wouldn't be play action to the WIDE open RB in the flat.

Mac just screwed us there and instead of lobbing the ball, threw a dart directly behind the RB.

When you have a QB throw 2 pick six and a defense give up 34 points, it ain't you (the OC).
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:32 am to
I hadn't thought about it but if he's still the OC when Saban hangs it up then, and if we're still competing for conference titles and the playoffs, I'm sure he'd get strong consideration. It worked for Dabo, Riley, and the guy at Ohio State.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:43 am to
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He ran the ball, they stuffed it.


Bama had first and goal from inside the two and should have tried the run at least once or twice.

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...the WIDE open RB in the flat.


The RB was not wide open or there wouldn't have been a defender there to take the ball off the RB's back and return it 100 yards for a TD.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 7:48 am to
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The RB was not wide open or there wouldn't have been a defender there to take the ball off the RB's back and return it 100 yards for a TD.


well, "wide open" is kind of relative I guess, but there was not a defender between him and the sideline. It was a short pass so should have been a fairly easy one to make, but since it was behind the receiver, it made for an easy interception. So that was clearly Mac's fault, but he can learn from that. I was more confident after his game than before that he is capable of being the starting qb and compete for titles.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 8:45 am to
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If he sticks around another 3-4 .. idk...




If he sticks around and proves himself, then yeah....guy can recruit too....
Posted by BaDoing
Member since Oct 2019
352 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 9:02 am to
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Did you watch the game or just highlights


Did you?
1st & goal at the 2. Auburn was gassed and couldn't stop Harris. I would -actually any good OC- would have given him a couple of shots at carrying the ball before running a low chance of success goofball pass.

Sark goes low percentage in too many down/distance situations. There's too many weapons on the team for his nonsense.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 9:02 am to
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Until Bama gets an OC who has the balls to run it on 3rd & short...


What we don't want is an OC who constantly has us in 3rd and long.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 12:10 pm to
Yeah, my whole bitch with that play is this: it's first and goal at the 2 and Najee has been making Auburn's defense his bitch. They couldn't stop him and he's gaining more and more momentum. Sark's play call is brilliant if he runs it and Najee is standing wide open for Mac and he to play pitch and catch. And really he should have been based on the flow of the game. BUT...either Auburn was stealing signals ( I don't believe this) or they knew Sark's tendency to get cute near the goal line and was looking for something other than just power behind Cornbread and Wills which was the call to make and the one that 90% of coaches call because it's what got you here. But Auburn blitzed right into a play action pass and they never even hesitated with the fake. It certainly helped them greatly that Kaho whiffed on the blitz and Mac hurried the throw. But the Auburn LB was right there with Najee when he shouldn't be if he's anticipating run and we showed play action. They never even blinked at the fake. He's standing right there with Najee. To me, that implies they were thinking something other than power right.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22525 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 12:38 pm to
We ran the ball 2 times before that and gained 1 yard. That pass to Harris would’ve normally worked.
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 12/21/19 at 1:43 pm to
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We ran the ball 2 times before that and gained 1 yard. That pass to Harris would’ve normally worked.


I was going to say this and in fact I think there was a penalty on Auburn on one of our runs and it was stuffed.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:19 am to
I don't think people realize how lucky we are to have Sark. As much we as we all revere the Kiffin offense (and my lord, was it worth revering), Sark was the other half of that USC brain-child with Kiffin back in the day.

As a Falcons fan in the NFL, I feel like we sorely missed Sark this year. We had a nice balance in the run/pass game, and he was able to scheme open our best players. He got a lot of flak for our red-zone inefficiency, but it greatly improved in year 2 over year 1 - the only issue was, the wins came in 2017 vs. 2018. I think everyone believes cutting Sark loose was a mistake.

If he can maintain his sobriety, he's absolutely a candidate to replace CNS. He can obviously recruit. He knows what it's like to run a big program. He would maintain continuity. I'm not saying he's the "be-all, end-all," but he's likely going to be one of the best guys available who would want the job after CNS leaves.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:52 am to
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gauge the opinion of the option of SS succeeding Saban as the man.




Put me down as a no.

Don't really have a strong reason for that opinion, other than preferring someone with more positive head coaching experience.
Posted by ProudTide83
Dickson, TN
Member since Nov 2019
41 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:28 am to
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I just wonder if Sark has what it takes to run a program like UA if and when NS hangs it up.



It's an interesting thought. Head coach at UA is about as intense as it gets. I would certainly have concerns if someone recovering from addiction took the reigns. He does deserve credit for his accomplishments as well as getting his life back in order. I believe in second chances. But running UA football? Not so sure.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:36 am to
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I would certainly have concerns if someone recovering from addiction took the reigns.


that's way overblown. I know from experience that you can quit all that shite if you want to do it and are motivated to do it.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:38 am to
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I would certainly have concerns if someone recovering from addiction took the reigns.


that's way overblown. I know from experience that you can quit all that shite if you want to do it and are motivated to do it.



Everyone's experience is different, especially when it comes to substance abuse.

Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Everyone's experience is different, especially when it comes to substance abuse.



Sure, but I seriously doubt any psychiatrist, doctor, or psychologist will believe that there are people that just can't quit alcohol or drugs. I am certain it's more difficult for some than it is for others, but it's still a choice. Furthermore, it is probably easier for those who have strong will. If a man is successfully coaching at the major college football level then that is a man with strong will and motivation.

My only point is that, as noted, in my opinion the fact that Sarkisian had an alcohol problem is way overblown. We all know people that had a drug or alcohol problem that don't anymore. We interact with them every day. Whether you know about their past is irrelevant. It just so happens that Sarkisian was a sports celebrity so you know his past better than some of those you work with, or some those in your church, or even all of your friends. Some people just don't talk about it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65056 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:37 pm to
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The RB was not wide open or there wouldn't have been a defender there to take the ball off the RB's back and return it 100 yards for a TD.


He was wide open in the sense that had the pass been on target, it's an easy touchdown. The defender was trailing behind Najee Harris and had no way of keeping the ball away from him if the pass was an accurate one.

Because Jones had to rush the throw, the pass was a little behind Najee, which allowed for the interception and subsequent TD.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Sure, but I seriously doubt any psychiatrist, doctor, or psychologist will believe that there are people that just can't quit alcohol or drugs.


Never argued otherwise.


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I am certain it's more difficult for some than it is for others, but it's still a choice. Furthermore, it is probably easier for those who have strong will. If a man is successfully coaching at the major college football level then that is a man with strong will and motivation


yet, this successful coach at a major college DIDN'T have strong enough will to not let his substance abuse affect his life in a negative way. That's my point. Everyone is different, and recovering addicts relapse all the time. Will he? I really have no idea what kind of person Sark is in that regard.


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My only point is that, as noted, in my opinion the fact that Sarkisian had an alcohol problem is way overblown.


I mean, I guess? That is likely something that only he himself knows the answer to. I do remember some of the stories being pretty damn bad though.

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We all know people that had a drug or alcohol problem that don't anymore. We interact with them every day. Whether you know about their past is irrelevant. It just so happens that Sarkisian was a sports celebrity so you know his past better than some of those you work with, or some those in your church, or even all of your friends. Some people just don't talk about it.


I would say that someone's past history of alcohol abuse is extremely relevant when it comes to that person running your multi-million dollar football program.


No one is arguing that Sark 100% will relapse if put inside the pressure cooker of being head coach at Bama, but the chance of it happening are probably much higher than someone who doesn't have a history of abusing alcohol.

This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:08 pm to
pretty sure that Paul W. Bryant drank most of his adult life, even when he was running the multi-million dollar football program at Alabama

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