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re: Opinion on the Sark
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:08 pm to John Milner
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:08 pm to John Milner
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Sure, but I seriously doubt any psychiatrist, doctor, or psychologist will believe that there are people that just can't quit alcohol or drugs. I am certain it's more difficult for some than it is for others, but it's still a choice. Furthermore, it is probably easier for those who have strong will. If a man is successfully coaching at the major college football level then that is a man with strong will and motivation.
My only point is that, as noted, in my opinion the fact that Sarkisian had an alcohol problem is way overblown. We all know people that had a drug or alcohol problem that don't anymore. We interact with them every day. Whether you know about their past is irrelevant. It just so happens that Sarkisian was a sports celebrity so you know his past better than some of those you work with, or some those in your church, or even all of your friends. Some people just don't talk about it.
I have seen drugs and alcohol addiction ruin people for a lifetime as well. To act as if they are generally overcome is, in my opinion, not based in reality. Particularly opiates. They are very hard to quit. I have seen this first hand.
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:13 pm to ProudTide83
The road to recovery from alcoholism is not only possible, it's also fairly common. More than a third of U.S. adults who were dependent on alcohol are now in full recovery, says the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA).
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This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:32 pm to John Milner
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The road to recovery from alcoholism is not only possible, it's also fairly common. More than a third of U.S. adults who were dependent on alcohol are now in full recovery, says the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA).
Alcohol is probably the most common addiction to be overcome. My concern is that he was taking pain killers. I don't buy the story that he accidentally mixed the 2 at that booster event.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:35 pm to ProudTide83
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Alcohol is probably the most common addiction to be overcome
then you are clueless
Just right above you said this...I have seen drugs and [b]alcohol addiction ruin people for a lifetime as well. To act as if they are generally overcome is, in my opinion, not based in reality
But now you say that it's a common addiction to overcome. So which is it?
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My concern is that he was taking pain killers. I don't buy the story that he accidentally mixed the 2 at that booster event.
I'm not even convinced you're a Bama fan anyway, so there is that too.
Pretty often new posters that are mostly negative are actually alters.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:39 pm to John Milner
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then you are clueless
it was a guess, I'll admit. I have personally battled issues with the bottle and know many who have been affected by opiates. As for my fandom, I don't really care what you think. I don't know why you are being argumentative though. Are we not allowed to disagree?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:41 pm to ProudTide83
A guess? Do you just throw shite against a wall to see what will stick?
Pretty often new posters that are mostly negative are eventually outed as alters, whereas most new posters that are bona fide Bammers and want to stick around are not negative about the program. Not talking just this board but any free board.
Pretty often new posters that are mostly negative are eventually outed as alters, whereas most new posters that are bona fide Bammers and want to stick around are not negative about the program. Not talking just this board but any free board.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:43 pm to John Milner
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Pretty often new posters that are mostly negative are actually alters.
I am not being negative about anything. I just partially disagree with you on this subject. I am not even saying Sarkisan would be a bad option. Only that I am skeptical due to personal experience and the pressure that comes with being head coach.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:45 pm to ProudTide83
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just partially disagree with you on this subject.
so do you disagree with webmd as well? That 1/3 give it up is from their website. It's not just some shite I threw against the wall to see what would stick.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:46 pm to John Milner
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Pretty often new posters that are mostly negative are eventually outed as alters, whereas most new posters that are bona fide Bammers and want to stick around are not negative about the program. Not talking just this board but any board.
I haven't been negative about anything. Good lord. I'm too old for this crap.
Be honest, have you overcome alcohol addiction? If so, I applaud you. I did as well. We don't disagree as much as you think. try to relax my man. We are just talkin here.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:50 pm to John Milner
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so do you disagree with webmd as well? That 1/3 give it up is from their website. It's not just some shite I threw against the wall to see what would stick.
you are looking for an argument. But here is another study just for some perspective.
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This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:51 pm to ProudTide83
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Be honest, have you overcome alcohol addiction? If so, I applaud you.
yeah. Not proud of it but back in the day I'd do anything you had to offer, including opiates. Wasn't hard to quit. In fact, when you didn't have them you damn sure didn't go into convulsions or any kind of thing. You just didn't do it.
Alcohol, though, wasn't easier to quit. It was harder to quit. That it is so readily available certainly is part of that problem.
Harder than any of them were cigarettes. But you can quit that too.
So webmd says that a third quit. I have no reason to think that isn't so.
Finally, though, I don't think it's fair to disparage a man that by most accounts has cleaned up his life. I think he deserves credit, not accusations.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:01 pm to John Milner
I dont know what to tell you if you still believe kicking opiates is easy. It ain't. I have dug through Memphis projects looking for family members who have been addicted to them for years. Your own personal experience is just that, yours. There is a ton of evidence out there that completely disproves the notion that pain killers are easy to kick. Just google it or whatever. lastly, your own personal experience with this is causing you to take this conversation too personally. I just don't know that I'd hire an addict or former addict to run the most coveted football program in the country. We just disagree on that.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:02 pm to John Milner
And i've been in the room when someone was going through withdrawals from oxycontin. It sounds like you weren't hooked on them as bad as others are. I've seen the vomiting, the shakes, all of it. On multiple occasions.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:59 pm to John Milner
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pretty sure that Paul W. Bryant drank most of his adult life, even when he was running the multi-million dollar football program at Alabama
I think that you and I both know that 1. both situations were clearly not the same(which again, is my point here.) and 2. 2019 is a lot different than 1969 in terms of how things are perceived, as well as how they are reported.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 3:00 pm to John Milner
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In fact, when you didn't have them you damn sure didn't go into convulsions or any kind of thing. You just didn't do it.
If this was your experience, you just didn't do enough of them for a long enough time. Lose nearly a decade on pain pills like one of my college buds, and your body will reject normal movement and shatter with pain if you stop abruptly or semi-abruptly.
As a former smoker, smoking is easy to quit if you need to quit. It's just really hard to quit if you only want to.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 3:07 pm to John Milner
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Finally, though, I don't think it's fair to disparage a man that by most accounts has cleaned up his life. I think he deserves credit, not accusations.
I think that most are giving him credit where its due.
I don't think that anyone is accusing him of anything either. The guy got fired from USC because he would do things like show up to coaches meetings and practice drunk, and reeking of booze.
No one is saying that he still gets hammered to the point of not being able to function, but is it really all that unreasonable to be weary of handing him the keys to the program when he was fired from his last head coaching gig for being an alcoholic?
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:50 pm to BaDoing
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Until Bama gets an OC who has the balls to run it on 3rd & short they will be making reservations for the Citrus Bowl every year.
Maybe I'm biased, but I think it's pretty ballsy to pull one of the greatest college quarterbacks ever with the greatest WR Corps ever, so that a backup WR can run the ball on 4th and short repeatedly.
Outside of a bad spot against LSU, that formation rendered a first down or touchdown every single play this year. Seemed to work... I thought Sark did an outstanding job this year. The numbers agree with that assessment. Now we will have to see how he progresses without Tua/4 Horsemen.
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