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Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:54 pm to Fleurs
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If you think your business struggling entitles you to endanger the safety of literally any of your fellow citizens, I will just be polite and say it doesn't sound like you went to law school or have ever read the constitution.
There is no legal basis for shutting down someone's livelihood in this nation. None. You Karens are going to be quite disappointed when all of the court cases and fines against lawful businesses get thrown out.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:55 pm to Fleurs
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Karens, defined:
No, those are people fighting for their rights. They are not forcing anyone else to do anything. You truly do not understand the Karen meme.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:55 pm to imjustafatkid
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How very specific.
Yeah, that's generally how these things work. Pretty much all memes have a specific theme.
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You clearly don't know your meme.
Did you actually bother to read your own link? Everything in there except the one thing you cited, which is definitely not indicative of how the Karen meme has evolved, points to a Karen as one or more of: a bitchy, selfish, middle aged white woman who treats retail and service workers like shite.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:55 pm to imjustafatkid
If the person's livelihood endangers the lives of other citizens, there 100% is and always has been.
They teach elemntary school students that there is no absolute freedom afforded to you in the constitution, that your freedom ends where your fellow citizen's begins. That is literally the entire point of government, to mediate between those forces in conflict.
Absolutely pitiful that you can't see it.
They teach elemntary school students that there is no absolute freedom afforded to you in the constitution, that your freedom ends where your fellow citizen's begins. That is literally the entire point of government, to mediate between those forces in conflict.
Absolutely pitiful that you can't see it.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:56 pm to Robot Santa
Also I read your link and it confirms everything everyone else is explaining to you and refutes the point you are trying to make.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:57 pm to imjustafatkid
What if I were a hitman? That's my livelihood! Who are you to tell me I can't make a living because murder involves killing other citizens?!
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:58 pm to Robot Santa
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Did you actually bother to read your own link? Everything in there except the one thing you cited, which is definitely not indicative of how the Karen meme has evolved, points to a Karen as a bitchy, selfish, middle aged white woman who treats retail and service workers like shite.
Are you guys just being deliberately obtuse? You'd have to be a complete moron not to know this is wrong. Yes, people who constantly complain to the manager are Karens, but that is not the only way this meme is used. In this case, the "manager" is the US government (local government, homeowners' association, etc) and they're complaining about law-abiding citizens simply going about their business. It doesn't even take any imagination to see it. It's clearly the exact same thing.
ETA: You guys are literally arguing against the accepted definition of what a Karen is.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:00 pm to Fleurs
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If the person's livelihood endangers the lives of other citizens, there 100% is and always has been.
They teach elemntary school students that there is no absolute freedom afforded to you in the constitution, that your freedom ends where your fellow citizen's begins. That is literally the entire point of government, to mediate between those forces in conflict.
All of this is wrong.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:02 pm to imjustafatkid
obtuse? lol, ok. here, I'll use pictures since it seems you probably need those.
Your link said:
You just said, the US Government is "the manager" in this analogy. Again, your link:
In support of your link, I submit, again:
pretty straight forward really.
Your link said:
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"Karen" as an annoying middle-aged white woman.[2]
"Karen" is generally characterized as an irritating, entitled woman,
You just said, the US Government is "the manager" in this analogy. Again, your link:
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Karen demanded to speak to the manager
In support of your link, I submit, again:
pretty straight forward really.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:03 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Man, it is so revealing of your level of education that you think that!
All of this is wrong.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:03 pm to Fleurs
Ok Karen. Whatever you say.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:04 pm to imjustafatkid
I wonder who is angrily downvoting me.
Not that he's mad, he thinks it's funny actually.
Gotta get back to work, will check back in later, after work. :wink:
Not that he's mad, he thinks it's funny actually.
Gotta get back to work, will check back in later, after work. :wink:
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:04 pm to Fleurs
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Man, it is so revealing of your level of education that you think that!
You will never be able to point to anything anywhere that states "your rights end where my safety begins." It literally doesn't exist.
It's "your rights end where mine begin." It's not "my safety." It's my rights. Your rights end where my rights begin.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:05 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
You will never be able to point to anything anywhere that states "your rights end where my safety begins." It literally doesn't exist.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:05 pm to Fleurs
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I wonder who is angrily downvoting me.
Not that he's mad, he thinks it's funny actually.
Gotta get back to work, will check back in later, after work. :wink:
You don't have to wonder. It's me. I downvote morons.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:07 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:08 pm to Robot Santa
You're confusing examples with definitions.
ETA: In this case, the Karens are you entitled children who believe you have a right to tell people when they can or cannot go about their business. It is not the people simply choosing to go about their business.
ETA: In this case, the Karens are you entitled children who believe you have a right to tell people when they can or cannot go about their business. It is not the people simply choosing to go about their business.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:12 pm to imjustafatkid
A moron huh? Have you ever heard of John Locke? Did the founders ever mention him? Was he perhaps mentioned at some point in the papers that documented the founding of our country and the writing of our constitution? I dunno, when I was in like 4th grade, I seem to recall something about him.
Forgive me if you also went to elementary school and remember this, but perhaps give his concept of "The Social Contract" a skim. I think it might hold some of the answers you seek.
If you're familiar, when he talks about how we give up rights to protect ourselves from others violating our own rights, a concept that our founding fathers were literally obsessed with, what do you think he meant?
I'm sure they covered this at the very prestigious UAB undergrad no?
Forgive me if you also went to elementary school and remember this, but perhaps give his concept of "The Social Contract" a skim. I think it might hold some of the answers you seek.
If you're familiar, when he talks about how we give up rights to protect ourselves from others violating our own rights, a concept that our founding fathers were literally obsessed with, what do you think he meant?
I'm sure they covered this at the very prestigious UAB undergrad no?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:14 pm to Fleurs
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
I mean, I searched it just to be sure. I've gone through three pages now, and that quote only pops up from the Karens on Twitter. I'm really looking forward to you letting me know which of our founding fathers said that.
Here's the Bing search: LINK
Here's the Google search: LINK
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