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re: Official Coaching Search Thread: The Search Is Over

Posted on 2/9/19 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 6:45 pm to
Moved to there. I would hate having to deal with Kirby
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 1:15 am to
wasnt he Kiffin's OC when he was at Ut-K (think he stayed with Dooley, tho would not claim that) seems he engineered a plan for Bama that almost derailed a march to the NC... (all hail to Mt Cody for the Rocky Block)...
But, I think getting out and away from Kirby would mean lots and getting to return to a new and building franchise could be exciting.
Still remembering the lettering on the wt room...
"The Future is Now here... were there was no space between the w and h... "Nowhere"
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:50 pm to

quote:

Bruce Feldman ? @BruceFeldmanCFB
SOURCE: #Miami is hiring Jesse Stone as Quality Control coach working with OC Dan Enos & the QBs. Stone was a grad assistant at #UGA for last three years and helped in development of Jacob Eason and Jake Fromm.

so nice to see Uga losing their coaching staff, even if it is GA's and such. Losing people that have carved out a place is still inconvenient
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:40 am to
Todd Grantham is interviewing with the Bengals today
Posted by RollTideNL
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:54 am to
Below is the new staff, which I numbered to reflect the max amount of on-field assistants. I added who has former DC experience (because of last year’s experiment with an unexperienced defensive coordinator).
Regarding the ILBs: there was a big drop-off in production and quality of play from 2017 (position coach: Pruitt) to 2018 (Golding). So, why would CNS want to continue with Pete Golding coaching the inside linebackers? Didn't Pruitt use this reasoning to lure away To’oto’o? Now, Charles Kelly coached the linebackers for FSU during their 2013 National Championship season under Pruitt as DC. I have no idea whether Kelly was/is any good as inside linebackers coach, but would he not be better than Golding? Having said that, should Kelly not be put in charge of ILBs instead of Golding (with Golding overseeing defensive backs with Scott and Saban)? That would make the coaching staff responsibilities look like this:

0. HC: Nick Saban
1. OC/QB: Steve Sarkisian* (former HC)
2. OL: Kyle Flood* (former HC)
3. RB: Charles Huff*
4. WR: Holmon Wiggins*
5. TE/ST: Jeff Banks
6. DC/DBs: Pete Golding
7. DL: Brian Baker* (former DC, interim basis only?)
8. OLB: Sal Sunseri* (former DC)
9. ILB: Charles Kelly* (former DC)
10. DBs: Karl Scott (former DC)

Foolish suggestion?
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 5:02 am
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:18 am to
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why would CNS want to continue with Pete Golding coaching the inside linebackers?

Just a guess, but since it's usually one of the ILBs that makes the defensive calls on the field, I can see maybe why the DC would be more involved with that position group...

That being said, Golding has excelled coaching DBs wherever's he's been...
Posted by RollTideNL
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:43 am to
Fair point. Question: who coached inside linebackers during Kirby Smart's years as defensive coordinator?
Posted by Tw1st3d
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:13 am to
As DC Kirby moved to ILB coach and Pruitt became the DB (safeties) coach. Kirby spent his first spring at ILB coach teaching the ILB's how the DB's worked so they would have a better understanding of how the entire D fit together.

When Pruitt became the DC he moved to ILB coach
Posted by RollTideNL
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:51 am to
Thanks! So, Golding is well equipped to teach the ILB's how the DB's work. He knows how the defense works. But who can teach Golding to teach ILB fundamentals? Should CNS hire Ray Lewis for an off-field consultant role to tutor PG? IMO the ILB position coach is the only weakness on the new staff.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 12:18 pm
Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
Great listing...

Agree PG should have something/someone to help him get his head around ILB play, if that is a requirement for DC.
Sal didnt do so well when he was with 10rc as DC seems like, if my memory serves me.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Golding is well equipped to teach the ILB's how the DB's work

I'd say Golding is well equipped to teach the ILBs how the defense works and what keys to look for to make the correct calls/adjustments on the field. Just another guess, but I'd imagine, as far as ILB fundamentals go, Sunseri and/or Kelly would probably have a hand in that...
Posted by RollTideNL
Member since Jan 2019
333 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:28 pm to
Sal and Kelly did not pan out as defensive coordinators at 10RC and FSU respectively, but they can provide support to Golding as a coordinator AND as a position coach. Hopefully as a collective they will be good coaches and teachers to our ILBs. I mean, MacLain, Mosley, Ragland, Hightower et al didn't come out of high school NFL-ready. They were coached up. CNS must be keenly aware that this element - coaching up - was lacking last year.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 8:23 am
Posted by RollTideNL
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 9:34 am to
The coaching search is done and this thread may be done, but there are several coaching questions that remain. Here is one:
How can an offense that features Tua at QB, Jeudy, Ruggs, D. Smith, Waddle at WR, I. Smith at TE, and D. Harris. Jacobs and N. Harris at running back score only 16 points?
- Was it CNS being too conservative?
- Did Alabama run out of gass after a long season? Lane Kiffin suggested last year that this is Saban's problem.
- Was playcalling too predictable? I think yes. OC's should always add some new wrinkles before big games like this. Jim McElwain did it for us in the past.
- Had Locksley's offense stalled? I think it did. After the LSU game it seemed that the honeymoon was over.
- Was it the O-line? Was this why Key left or was asked to leave?
- Or was it just Clemson?

Most important question: did we fix what was wrong???
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 11:34 am
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 11:20 am to
personally, i think it was a combination of everything you listed. hence, the perfect storm.

i think clemson was as prepared as they could ever be.

i think our gameplan played right into their hands. all year long when we got inside the 30 yardline, we attacked the endzone. not that night.

the defense wore down, just like it did against oklahoma. only difference was, clemson had a real defense.

regardless of all the ifs and buts, hindsight is 20-20 stuff, bama got bama'd. a tip-o-the-hat to dabo and his staff for being prepared.

only time will tell if saban has fixed it.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 2:59 pm to
It might have been said before but Coach Kuligowski is leaving since his house is on the MLS in Tuscaloosa
Posted by RollTideNL
Member since Jan 2019
333 posts
Posted on 2/14/19 at 4:03 pm to
Don't think it was mentioned here before. Wonder where he's going. Was presented as a big hire last year. Solid reputation as a teacher (not so much as a recruiter). Pity it didn't work. I guess the physical Bama style we are used to was not his forte?
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:36 pm to
Any positive news ?
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Had Locksley's offense stalled? I think it did. After the LSU game it seemed that the honeymoon was over.

It didn't look stalled against Auburn or Oklahoma and thought it looked pretty good against LSU. Against UGA it was hard to tell as Tua played with a high ankle from the first series on...didn't look too stalled when Hurts came in though...

Against Clemson, other than the two picks, we moved the ball pretty well, just couldn't get it done in the red zone (particularly inside the 10-yard line). We won time of possession and led in total yards up until the last Clemson drive when they ran out the clock.

The INTs were killers but I think the defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down was our ultimate downfall. Lawrence was 8-11 for 250 yards and 2 TDs on third down alone; think he threw for under 100 yards on all other downs. While there's plenty of blame to go 'round and our offense was inefficient to say the least, I think our defensive problems were even a bigger issue...
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:11 am to
Bama should have scored 45 plus on Georgia, even with Tua hurt.

Would have easily scored over 50 with Tua healthy.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:23 am to
quote:

MacLain, Mosley, Ragland, Hightower et al didn't come out of high school NFL-ready

I agree but McLain was about as close as they come...dude was like having a defensive coordinator on the field...had a lot of off-field issues but, on the field, he was a beast...
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 10:27 am
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