re: Official Alabama assistant coaching search thread: staff complete Edition

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Southern families and mothers don’t go for that.

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But they do go for second chances when someone screws up. That will be the angle Saban sells them on. "This guy made mistakes, but he's learning from them and I'll help him grow just like I'll be there for your son if he makes mistakes". We all hated the Jonathan Taylor decision and it backfired in some ways, but Saban got tons of calls from parents of players & recruits saying they appreciated him giving the kid a chance.

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I know he will never be welcome at my high school

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Really? So if Saban called the HC of your HS and said he wanted to visit with X player on Friday and he'd be bringing Freeze with him your high school's HC would tell the greatest coach in college football history he can't come in?

Come on guys. I wouldn't want Freeze as HC, but Saban has given Kiffin and Sark (who was drunk on stage in front of the world) an opportunity to rehab their images. He cares as much about this program and his legacy as anyone and I just feel like he wouldn't make a hire that he thinks he can't control and/or would tarnish his legacy. I'm willing to give him - the guy with ALL the info - the benefit here.

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I know he will never be welcome at my high school.. and I talk with many other coaches in Mississippi and it’s the mutual feeling all around.

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That's awfully christian of you, brother. Literally.

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Come on guys. I wouldn't want Freeze as HC, but Saban has given Kiffin and Sark (who was drunk on stage in front of the world) an opportunity to rehab their images. He cares as much about this program and his legacy as anyone and I just feel like he wouldn't make a hire that he thinks he can't control and/or would tarnish his legacy. I'm willing to give him - the guy with ALL the info - the benefit here.

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His character issues are the least of my concern. I am all for second chances.

His NCAA troubles are what worry me. I don't want Alabama being cavalier with that sort of thing.

I think those with concerns would feel much better if Freeze was an analyst for a year. Then transitioned into being an assistant.

I wonder if it will be Saban doing it or Byrne doing it on Saban's behalf

They may arrive at a compromise where he has very limited off-campus recruiting privileges for a year or something. That may be a deal-breaker, but it's not an unreasonable middle ground. He'd be supervised for a while and if he does anything questionable it can be fixed before it becomes a serious issue.

I get a lot in Alabama doesn’t understand how this situation went down.. it was the fact of the constant lying to kids and coaches about the sanctions. He said multiple times that the sanctions were false and the only wrong doing was done by Nutt. That’s why the ole miss fan base kept saying nothing would happen. A lot of promises were made to alot of coaches and families. He kept saying it was a Christian organization and that would never happen under him. The hooker thing I could less about it, and could honestly be a second chance mistake. Gaining the trust in him will be issue. I not saying it can’t be done, but will be a long hard road.

I understand some say it’s not Christian to not give a second chance.. then why won’t we hire Briles? And why did Roy Moore lose? It takes time for second chances and this just seems too new. The cuts are still bleeding in this area. I think it’s too much baggage right now, let him come on as an off field analyst. I’m all for that, and rebuild that way for a year. Then move to the field

The outcry would last a handful of days and then it would be over with. But I disagree that Sankey wouldn't win that battle. He absolutely would IMO. But the fact is the guy has a show-cause as a head coach only. If he is hired as an on-field coach making any other restrictions is ridiculous.

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Personally if CNS was going to go to war for a coach I wish he would have gone to war for Bo Davis.

I say hire Freeze and Davis, and then tell Sankey we know where the $cam Newton bag man is, and he is ready to talk. Not because that would make any sense, but because they would think we're too crazy to frick with.

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These situations are nothing alike.

There's nothing Alabama can do about Davis. Nor the SEC for that matter. He has a NCAA show cause upheld on appeal. And it won't be over until April 2019.

As solid as Bo Davis is as a coach, his best skill is likely as a recruiter. And that couldn't be used for more than a year. Furthermore, he hasn't continued relationships as a recruiter because of his ban. Those relationships would have to rebuilt from the ground up.

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Furthermore, he hasn't continued relationships as a recruiter because of his ban. Those relationships would have to rebuilt from the ground up.

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I'm not sure I totally buy that. Yes, there are going to be some new HS coaches, but a ton of them are going to be guys that Bo Davis already knows and has a relationship with. He wouldn't be starting from the bottom floor, though.