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re: Offensive Identity

Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:02 pm to
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I don't think it matters what kind of offense you have as long as it is efficient.

We aren't efficient in big games because our QB isn't efficient in big games. Its as simple as that.



Can't disagree with that.

Also, other than Williams, would anyone venture to guess how many of this year's starting OL will get drafted when their Alabama career is over?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:03 pm to
That's fine but we have to finish the season and let them compete at that point. We may end up in the playoff and need to figure out how to move ahead. I don't care about next year I care about now.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:04 pm to
I agree. But that's on Saban. Dabol didn't come from a Kiffin type system. If Tua can open the passing game up more and allow teams not to stack the box then so be it. I'm a Bama fan and I'll support the starter whoever it is.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:05 pm to
IDK, but what I do know is that line is full of 5 and 4 star talent.

If they suck then positional coaching and strength conditioning is the problem.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:05 pm to
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It's pretty simple. We need to run the offense he excels in and stop trying to be proactive style. Our team does well when we go fast and use our better backs. Maybe I'm the only one who sees it.


I don't necessarily disagree, but I still think in most places our OL isn't very good...certainly not what we came to expect in 2008-13.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15178 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:06 pm to
Only way we get in playoff is if TCU beats OU.

No other path except Big12 losing their spot.

Btw that is highly unlikely.
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:06 pm to
Dude. It’s over. This year is over. It ended a few hours ago.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

IDK, but what I do know is that line is full of 5 and 4 star talent.


Tyler Love forever cured me of putting any stock in those rankings. But you're right about positional coaching being inadequate.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:07 pm to
So the big question is this, let's say we end up in the playoff and we have a 50% chance btw if OSU wins. What corrections can we make on the O? I kind of started this thread because there is just no identity and we need to do what works.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:08 pm to
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But that's on Saban.


This is why I've never complained that much about coordinators. Not saying that criticism of Daboll isn't warranted...but if he's back next year, then that's on Saban.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8282 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

So the big question is this, let's say we end up in the playoff and we have a 50% chance btw if OSU wins. What corrections can we make on the O? I kind of started this thread because there is just no identity and we need to do what works.



if 12 weeks of football and they havent fixed it...0% chance things change for the playoffs
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:08 pm to
That's not true, we still have at least 1 game left to play. If you want the team to get embarrassed that's on you.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:09 pm to
We have the plays I think, we need to implement the style and move forward with it, even if just for a month. It's hard as all hell to stop a clicking RPO with our RBs.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

What corrections can we make on the O?


Well, many people would say run Harris more...but are they the same folks who said Bo going down late in the Clemson game cost us the NC?

The OL is what it is. They aren't going to get any better.

First down plays need to go consistently for 5+ yards.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8282 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:12 pm to
I'd love to see improvements, but a lot of issues we had to day have been there since the start of the season. I would like to think we get things figured out and play to our strengths. What I saw today just doesn't give me much hope.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Only way we get in playoff is if TCU beats OU. 

No other path except Big12 losing their spot. 

Btw that is highly unlikely.


Let's think about this.

Sec champ
ACC champ
Big 12

Wisconsin loses, and OSU has two bad losses. It's between Bama and OSU. If Okie loses we are for sure in.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:17 pm to
If Ohio State beats Wisconsin they are getting in over us.

- Conference champ
- 2 better wins than our best win (Wisconsin, PSU) with their 3rd best win = our best (MSU vs LSau)

I'm not saying they should, but they will.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:19 pm to
I guess we'll see I kind of thought we would jump them.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8282 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:19 pm to
If 2 teams with 2 loses get in over us that will hurt.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5148 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

What corrections can we make on the O?


Realize Hurts is a very limited QB and simplify everything. Run more, primarily with Harris. Use Josh Jacobs in relief. Have designed passes where Hurts has one read, if it's not there he tucks and runs or throws it away. Tell Hurts that if he holds the ball for more than 5 seconds, he needs to throw it away or run up field.

I don't think they can fix the offensive line or the QB play. Certainly not in a month. Dumbing it down like this might help some, but I doubt it will be enough.
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