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re: Off-Topic: Governor’s Race

Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:31 pm to
Like using covid money for prisons?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50746 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:45 pm to
Well, looks like MeeMaw is running away with the Governor’s race right now.

Pork Barrel Katie currently leads the U.S. Senate race.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:45 pm to
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Well, looks like MeeMaw is running away with the Governor’s race right now.


Looking at the really low Dem turnout, it seems we got quite a few crossover votes.

Hard to believe there are many people out there who want 4 more years of MeeMaw.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:46 pm to
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Like using covid money for prisons?


I actually think this was a great use of those finds. Helped our state avoid a federal takeover of our prisons, which would have been far worse.

This actually might be the best thing MeeMaw has done while in office.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:46 pm
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
6670 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:08 pm to
best we can do


bang bang...
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29415 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:36 pm to
They showed Katie Britts speaking after the results and Wesley Britt is fricking massive
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8470 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:12 pm to
Ivey is like Biden...hard to find anyone that actually voted for her.

People say they don't like the system...and then proceed to vote for system candidates.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16126 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:22 am to
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Ivey is like Biden...hard to find anyone that actually voted for her.


If that’s the case you aren’t looking in the right places because it isn’t hard to find them at all.

Half of Alabama’ voting population is over 50. They also vote in every election meaning they represent an even higher percentage of voters participating in the primary and are overwhelmingly Ivey supporters.

Throw in that the main opponents were bad candidates and it was easy for Ivey. It would have been easy for just about any incumbent, but none of those ever had a prayer of unseating someone who polls as one of the most popular governors in the US.

I told y’all months ago she’d win without a runoff. I’m genuinely surprised she didn’t break 60% of the vote.

There are two interesting runoffs one of which could be incredibly bad for the state. In the Senate race, what will the Durant voters do? The only way Britt loses is if they break 100% for Brooks.

The other is Secretary of State. Jim Ziegler is an incompetent idiot. He couldn’t hurt anything as Auditor. That’s a do nothing office that really shouldn’t even exist. All it does is track property. Secretary of State is an entirely different animal. Between business records and elections, you can really mess up a lot of important stuff. Alabama’s voter id law survived court challenges where other states failed in large part because of the work Merrill and Jim Bennett did to make them easily accessible. Zeigler would have never pulled that off, wouldn’t have even tried, and is likely to frick it up. He REALLY needs to be defeated.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 5:30 am to
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Ivey is like Biden...hard to find anyone that actually voted for her.



Dude she was one of the safest candidates for re-election I can remember.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30872 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:11 am to
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Pork Barrel Katie currently leads the U.S. Senate race.
Her lead is just about insurmountable...runoff's just a waste of time and $$$.
Mo needs to stagger on back to Huntsville and continue to make an idiot out of himself in local govt.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:17 am to
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Her lead is just about insurmountable


If it were insurmountable, there wouldn't be a runoff.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:19 am to
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I told y’all months ago she’d win without a runoff. I’m genuinely surprised she didn’t break 60% of the vote.


I don't think it's surprising at all that she won. It was pretty obvious she was going to get all of the Democrat crossover votes.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:34 am to
I’d venture a guess that less than 5% of the R ballots cast were Dem crossovers. Every Dem I know hates all the R candidates, so there’s not really a lesser of two evils at play. Dem turnout was very low because there aren’t very many primary races on their side. I only voted so I could vote for county BOE.

Btw, I’m one of the crossovers though I’m not registered as a D. I left every section blank except county BOE. I only requested an R ballot to have the option to vote in a runoff, which I likely won’t do. But the option is there.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30872 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:30 pm to
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If it were insurmountable, there wouldn't be a runoff.

If you got any spare $$$ you'd like to wager on it, I'll give you 10-1 odds.
edit: By the way, what does the term just about mean to you, genius?
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:55 pm to
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I’d venture a guess that less than 5% of the R ballots cast were Dem crossovers.


100% chance this is inaccurate. The Dem candidates have no chance against any of these R candidates.

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Dem turnout was very low because Kay Ivey is a Dem running on the Republican ticket.


FIFY
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62378 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 12:55 pm to
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If you got any spare $$$ you'd like to wager on it, I'll give you 10-1 odds.


I don't have great confidence in any outcome in that race.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16126 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:15 pm to
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I don't think it's surprising at all that she won. It was pretty obvious she was going to get all of the Democrat crossover votes.


This is total crap.

First off, Alabama has open primaries so there is no such thing as a crossover voter in the first round. That term only applies when a voter returns for a runoff. You can no longer switch parties and vote for a different one in that election.

Second, she didn’t win because of some overwhelming groundswell of Alabama democrats coming out to keep her in office. She won because she’s incredibly popular with the type of voter that reliably comes out for primary elections and her two major opponents were nothing more than caricatures . The potential serious candidates knew going against her was an uphill battle and sat it out to wait on the open seat in 2026.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19597 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22302 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:25 pm to
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The potential serious candidates knew going against her was an uphill battle and sat it out to wait on the open seat in 2026.


There won’t be an open seat in 2026. It’s Will Ainsworth’s to lose. Either he takes over for Kay in two years or he’s coronated himself.

Again, it’s super disappointing to see Kay coast back into office without even having to answer one tough question. Just trotted out to ribbon cuttings. Hate that is the precedent now.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16126 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:25 pm to
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Btw, I’m one of the crossovers though I’m not registered as a D.


That’s not a crossover. Since Alabama has open primaries, there’s no such thing in the first round.

I’m not a registered R or D and even though at 54 years old I can count the number of Ds I’ve voted for on the state or national level on one hand back in the late 80s and all the 1990s to have a voice in the local races that mattered to me I’d vote in the D primaries because there were no R candidates for those races.

Like you, I didn’t vote races that didn’t matter to me. Hell, I didn’t vote the Governor’s race this year because I didn’t want to choose between meemaw, a Trump cutout with a blonde wig, or a rich kid unable to accept that people don’t really like him.
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