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re: No first rounders this year?

Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:55 pm to
Don't know, Al Davis is dead and he didn't talk to me while he was alive . I'm sure he just talked about lean the whole time, Al liked to party
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:59 pm to
Well, I'll take a guess and say he didn't do very well. He couldn't even speak coherently.

My point is that those interviews don't mean shite if you run 4.4 40 and perform well at the physical tests at the combine.

I'm guessing Anthony Richardson isn't the brightest bulb either.

My point is if Milroe performs well at the combine he's a first round pick.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:08 pm to
It works both ways. It depends on who is drafting and who is ahead of him. He is at best the 4th QB off the board. Lamar should not have went 32nd. Hurts shouldn't have went second round. Kyler went one cause a certain coach was picking 1, he probably falls if that isn't the case. Him doing well in the combine does not guarantee him a first round pick. Nobody needs to see him at the combine to know he is fast and has a great deep ball. If he does a great job of explaining what he sees on the field with those tools he has a much better chance of being the 4th, 5th or 6th QB off the board and someone possibly moving up to get him.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:08 pm to
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My point is if Milroe performs well at the combine he's a first round pick.


He's a physical specimen, probably even more so than Richardson in some ways. I wouldn't be surprised at anyone taking a chance and trying to unlock the mental aspect of his game.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:17 pm to
Yeah and Brady shouldn't have gone 199th.

My only points were to say that Cousins and Carr have the same numbers and that Milroe is way too fast and throws the deep ball way too well to fall out of the 1st round.
The Falcons picked a 25 year-old qb after giving a 36 year old $180m.
I could see all these teams taking a QB in the 1st round in 2024.

Panthers
Raiders
Seahawks
Titans
Jets
Dolphins
Giants
Steelers
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:20 pm to
This is the fallacy. Yes it only takes one, but it doesn't mean this year the one is there.

The league at least for the moment doesn't look like their will be to many teams looking for a first round QB to start now or in the near future. It is unlikely someone takes him that early unless he gives them some Jordan Love vibes both on the field and in the interview room. If is likely the 5th QB off the board is a second rounder. The margin is thin for him cause he isn't going before Sanders, Beck or Ewers.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:21 pm to
I disagree that most if this teams are going QB, first round, I think most teams think this is a week QB draft.

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Yeah and Brady shouldn't have gone 199th.


Brady really isn't relevant we are talking about physical talent, some years there are reaches for that who need work, some years it doesn't happen.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:24 pm to
You think Beck goes before Milroe if Milroe wins the Heisman and Beck misses the playoff and loses 3 games?
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:25 pm to
I don't think they all go QB either. I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if those teams went QB 1st round.

I think the Dolphins would be crazy not to take him. Tua perhaps has scrambled eggs for brains and Milroe can throw the deep ball to Tyreek and Waddle.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:28 pm to
Come on you know that isn't the way that works. Pro Teams don't care about Heismans or if a guy had 3 loses his last season, not well run teams anyway.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:30 pm to
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Come on you know that isn't the way that works. Pro Teams don't care about Heismans or if a guy had 3 loses his last season, not well run teams anyway.


I wasn't trying to suggest that.

I just wanted your opinion on that possible scenario.

It sounds like to me that you believe Beck is a better NFL prospect than Milroe.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:34 pm to
I'm not saying he can't go 1st. I don't disagree that one team could fall in love off his physical attributes and pick him in the 1st. I'm saying that if he does well in the interview/film room way more teams would be comfortable taking him in the first as a project cause it is less risky. Obviously the more teams that see you as low risk, the better chance you have of being taken in the first round. You all are just way more confident his physical ability will be enough and that is fine.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:44 pm to
If I was a GM I would have Beck ahead of Jalen now because his floor is higher than Jalen's due to his line checks and acurracy. I would want to interview Jalen to see his leadership and football IQ ( the same with Beck) and then I would reassess from there. Then I would make a decision based on my system and what attributes I want in a QB. I personally think Beck is a Kirk Cousins/Derek Carr which is not a QB I would want but that is a first round guy. Milroe is a potential first round guy but not a clear first round guy to me yet. At this moment the only QB I would take with red flags is Ewers from this class and I would likely pass on the rest of it at QB.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:02 am to
milroe cant read a defense well enough to check out of a bad play in college ball. you seriously think a pro team will pay first round money for that? i have no doubt he gets drafted, but first round..... nah
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:25 am to
You are just going to the other end of the spectrum. There is no absolute with him currently. The combine performance and QB need will determine whether he goes 1st or not in my opinion. If he proves he actually knows what he is seeing, (even if he is not executing) a owner/coach might look at him and go I can work with that. You can get a McVay or a Kliff Kingsbury type that goes I can work around that. We just don't know, but him being a 1st rounder is not a none starter at the moment, just in my opinion unlikely.
Posted by UhOhOreo
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:26 am to
Milroe couldn’t operate the Dolphins offense, what on earth are you smoking? It’s all about quick reads and quick throws. It’s not “screw it, 34 year old Tyreek is down there somewhere”

You’d be going from the quickest passer in the NFL to the slowest in CFB. That offense would fall apart

Tua’s brain is fine. Can’t believe this meme take is still around after Brady openly talked about hiding concussions and Cutler went on about having 15+ in his career. He’s got the same amount of concussions Rodgers had in the early 2010’s during his concussion spree and the same in his career so far as Mahomes, Pickett, and a handful of other young QB’s

The retirement talk is wild when the league averages a concussion in every game. If you think Tua needs to retire then the whole league needs to retire
This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
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Posted on 9/22/24 at 8:33 am to
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I could definitely see Milroe in the top ten. NFL teams drool over potential and athleticism.


And he truly has a ton of character, work ethic and leadership skills. those rank extremely high
Posted by JIB
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 1:44 pm to
Every mock draft I've looked at today has Milroe as a first rounder. What a difference a game can make.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:38 pm to
Way, way too early for this stuff.

Mel Kiper says he's "vying for QB1".
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LINKThis guy has Milroe going rd. 1 #8; Booker rd. 1 #18.

LINKThis person says #1 overall.

Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:41 pm to
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And he truly has a ton of character, work ethic and leadership skills. those rank extremely high


Big and strong with a huge arm. Somebody is gonna think they can do a Josh Allen style rehab on his mechanics. He has a lot of green flags, and if he keeps scoring a ton of touchdowns the red flags get overlooked.
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