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re: New wrinkles vs Georgia?

Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:50 pm to
Thank you because that’s painful to watch. I know Corey Miller said this defense would kind of be feast and famine in the same game due to scheme but of our offense is having a bad night I don’t know of our defense can get the stops we need.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:03 pm to
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Thank you because that’s painful to watch. I know Corey Miller said this defense would kind of be feast and famine in the same game due to scheme but of our offense is having a bad night I don’t know of our defense can get the stops we need.


This defense will be very good at defending big play offenses and will struggle against ruthlessly efficient offenses. Georgia of 2021-2023 would probably give this unit all sorts of problems, because they would completely fine with 6 possessions in which they went 12 plays, 75 yards and ended with a FG or TD. I'm not sure this version of their offense is quite as efficient as those, though.

It's just a different mindset. You don't give up explosive plays (theoretically), but you might give up 1-2 10 play drives a game. However, if those 2 drives end with 10 (or 6) pts.........you've done a pretty good job. That is what we've done so far, but the test will be against better teams if we can continue that low pt per possession combined with low yards per play numbers.

If so, I think it's the perfect compliment to our offense.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
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I think it’s fair to ask whether his average performance here gets a win


when you play a top 5 team on the road I'd say no, you certainly need "above average" qb play to win.

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I think it’s also fair to ask if he can actually achieve these numbers in the toughest game of his life


semantics here but I wouldn't call this the toughest game of his life; that'd be last year's SECCG since a playoff spot was on the line. I hate hate hate to say thsi but it's what CFB has turned into these days...but 9/28 is effectively meaningless. Ok ok, that's a stretch. It has meaning. But a loss doesn't really do anything regarding our playoff chances other than mean we can only lose once or hell maybe even two more games before we're out for good. Such is life in the era of a 12 team playoff.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
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I look at the 4 games against FBS teams that he’s played with Bowers and Ladd either out, limited, or graduated (Florida State is a huge cluster that I have no idea if I should count or not)


I see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it's fair to take away his two best targets. He's had time to adjust to working with new targets this year so we'll see how he does.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:17 pm to
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I see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it's fair to take away his two best targets. He's had time to adjust to working with new targets this year so we'll see how he does.

Absolutely and the Kentucky game is completely marred by moving pieces in the offensive line. Also saying that our defense is better than Clemson’s is basically an educated guess
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Also saying that our defense is better than Clemson’s is basically an educated guess


I don't think that's a guess this year. They have some great pieces on the front seven but I don't think the overall puzzle is better than Bama.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:30 pm to
I think bama's defense is clearly better than clemson's just on talent alone. I know saban isn't the coach anymore but every defensive player on the field (I assume) was recruited and brought in by him.

As for why our offense looked so terrific (well, for the 3rd and 4th quarters) against clemson and so shitty against Kentucky...well that idk.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:15 pm to
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Jalen, Jam and Haynes come out first possession in the Wishbone

Running the wishbone against that UGA front 7 seems like a really bad idea…
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:29 pm to
Nall we going to 95 Tommie Frazier them boys.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:29 pm to
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Running the wishbone against that UGA front 7 seems like a really bad idea


"this" front 7 is a bit of a MASH unit. This is not anywhere close to the 21/22 versions that people may be remembering. UK had their way on the ground which was very troubling.

I'm a lot more worried about bama running than I am passing.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Kane Wommack claims to have been conservative with his playbook.

We are about to enter the new era of the 2010s secret blitz pkgs discussion.

Honestly, I think it's going to be an offensive surprise. Seemed like for a lot of big games Saban would have that one avg performing or under targeted player suddenly breakout to counter defensive scouting and cause problems for good defenses.

Who do we think that could be: Law, Outz, Henderson, other? Those seem likely candidates.
Posted by Marktastic86
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:00 pm to
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eemed like for a lot of big games Saban would have that one avg performing or under targeted player suddenly breakout to counter defensive scouting and cause problems for good defenses.

Who do we think that could be: Law, Outz, Henderson, other? Those seem likely candidates.


Cuevas, the TE who caught the last TD in the Wisconsin game, could be a candidate. Tight ends haven't gotten much action these past few games, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get some opportunities, especially in the red zone.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:41 pm to
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For discussion sake, which tight games did he get flustered in last year?


BAMA dropped 4 INTs in ATL.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:32 am to
I’m glad the Georgia fans can come in here and have a civilized conversation. Beck is definitely good enough to beat us but he does seem to me not to care as much as the former Georgia QBs, just my outside looking in thought.

I’m hoping this upgraded coaching staff will scout Georgia’s weaknesses and put in plays to exploit those unlike some of previous coordinators and position coaches.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:05 am to
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Jalen, Jam and Haynes come out first possession in the Wishbone


Might not be a bad idea...there's at least the potential for tropical storm type conditions/heavy rain next Saturday. Interesting to see which team is better built for nasty weather...if it happens.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20499 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:28 am to
UGA Defensive Ranks
FEI Def: 2nd
FEI Def PPD: 13th
FEI Def YPP: 20th

Definitely a step down from last year so far but most of the statistical decline was as a result of that Kentucky game. Going into last week UGA was top 5 in most of those categories.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:30 am to
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Do you expect to see anything new from the offense and defense?


Obviously yes.

They will do new things as well



Absolutely. Its gonna be an interesting game
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10085 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:33 am to
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maybe the defense can not give up 15-20 play drives. whatever exotic scheme they need to run in order to prevent these type drives will be kool.


Yall are gonna have to get used to this. I think this D is designed to limit big plays. The idea is that if you make teams run lots of plays to score, they will mess up eventually. That said, I think this D has the ability to tighten up at opportune times
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:34 am to
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Going into last week UGA was top 5 in most of those categories.


What do we know about Clemson? They looked like shite in the opener. And the week after that i think UGA just played a team of homeless guys they gathered up from all the i85 underpasses.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89584 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 9:19 am to
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What do we know about Clemson? They looked like shite in the opener. And the week after that i think UGA just played a team of homeless guys they gathered up from all the i85 underpasses.


correct, so the "UGA defense had excellent stats heading into UK" doesn't really tell us a whole lot. It was very concerning how much success UK had running on us. We've had some banged up DL all year and our best edge rusher Mykell Williams has been out a few weeks as well. I think Mykell is 50/50 to be back and we should have a bit of improved health at DL which should help too.

Still though, bama's QB/RB potential is far greater than UK's so we'll need to clean up pretty quick.
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