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re: Multiple victims shot at Riverchase Galleria

Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:22 pm to
The video games I disagree on because other countries kids play at the same rate and don't see the same results but it could be the structure of this country. I think there some percentage but honestly most of the kids I know that like the shooters and violent games would shite their pants around a real gun .
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:24 pm to
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And I'm going to stereotype them here, they all have one thing in common: they are all Yankees! What's the matter, you don't know how to be around Black people?


Actually, they don't.

We've learned to live, work, pray and thrive together in the Deep South. I imagine most of us went to a high school that was split fairly evenly between white and black kids.

The white people up North are extremely racist even though they tend to be liberals who supposedly care for minority rights.

Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:26 pm to
Y'all stop me if I'm wrong but I'm going to throw something else out there that I think is a big part of the problem: The hip-hop culture where you talk about "frick the police" and dehumanize women, and objectify them as a sex object and glorify guns and drugs and gangs and violence. Hip-hop is sending all the wrong messages of how to act and what is cool, to the young people of all societies. Black people who are elevated to positions where they are admired and emulated need to remember that the message they are sending impacts their community and culture in a huge way. And there are some that do a good job of sending a decent message. I know that many of them came from the life they are rapping about but they are perpetuating the problems by doing that.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:26 pm to
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The white people up North are extremely racist even though they tend to be liberals who supposedly care for minority rights.


I will disagree with this since I live amongst them and with one Most of them are very nice.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:28 pm to
It's not just the video games. In 1963 The 45 Communist Goals For The Takeover of America was read into the Congressional Record. Check for yourself to see how much has actually come true. Violent video games are just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75853 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:30 pm to
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I will disagree with this since I live amongst them and with one Most of them are very nice.


I'm glad you've had a good experience up there.

One of my best friends wasn't so lucky. He said he encountered more racism in his two weeks in the Northeast than he has in his entire life living in Jackson, Mississippi.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:31 pm to
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Ya'll just ignore him. He's made up his mind that Black people are the problem and that's it. I prefer to have an intelligent discussion and try and come up with some common ground and solutions we can use to work together to create positive change.




If that were the case it would have been done a long time ago. What else is there to be done?
Posted by calgrad
Westlake Village, CA
Member since Dec 2018
106 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:31 pm to
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glorify guns and drugs and gangs and violence.


All of that "I'm wanted by the Feds," bullshite and rappers taking real drug dealers stories and making it sound and look fun could have some negative affects on societal norms. However, it's not much different than the rap music of the late 80s, early 90s, and 00s.

The family structure, though, is much different.
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:32 pm to
Hip hop has changed a great deal. Don't get me wrong all of that still exist but most people I grew up always say that current hip hop is soft and weird. Most of these artist want to be more like KISS than Tupac. All of the hyper sex stuff is there by male and female artist but I think the same is in rock, although that may have changed as well.

ETA: A lot of it has shifted from selling drugs to taking drug.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:33 pm to
I remember the early 90s when they were telling us that such rap lyrics were harmless and just expressions of people's lived experiences.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:34 pm to
These fellas were something else I still like their songs
Posted by calgrad
Westlake Village, CA
Member since Dec 2018
106 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Don't get me wrong all of that still exist but most people I grew up always say that current hip hop is soft and weird.


That's the get off of my lawn moment for 70s and 80s babies.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22088 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:36 pm to
Can we take this shite to the poli board?

I posted in another thread the day of that I was at the Galleria that day. Actually my wife, the 13 year old, and myself. My wife could not find what she was looking for at the Summit and we went to Hoover Belk, then to Express, so we had to enter the mall part.

The thing I remember was the absence of police walking around (used to be fairly high) and the fairly high rate of guys with shorts around their hips, who looked like they walked out of the movie Training Day.

We left maybe 20-30 minutes before the shooting.

Now I don’t know what the above means other than things are way out of kilter for my taste - and things were way too close for what I think what may have happened if my wife would not have changed her mind about going to Macy’s.

On one hand I want to be angry about the whole situation - and get upset with the perceived misdirected anger of a certain movement.. But I’m trying to be a bit more open these days. So, I’m now asking, is this how many in the African American community feel daily when it comes to violence? Particularly gun violence? Is this fear and reflective thinking (what may have happened) too often the norm?

And . . . I don't know. But I DO KNOW that no one here has the answer - and until we can get a bunch of smart people in a room and hash out differences and build a consensus, we will continue to live in misunderstanding, blame, and division.

And, our current leadership though the last 6 months has been some of the worse ever - on both sides of the aisle. If they were over corporations, they would have been forced out by now.

I’ve always been rather conservative but with independent thought. I, for the life of me, can’t understand why the Republican Party can’t do the same - invest in the Hispanic community (who are some of the hardest working people you’ll ever meet), and stop talking about a freakin’ wall - just build it and move on. And for God’s sake sink billions into the African American community with gun measures, education, and real mentoring programs.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:38 pm to
Speaking of rap music, does anyone else remember Doctor Dre being the lead singer of California Love and Tupac being the co-singer?

Every time it comes on Sirius XM it lists Tupac as the singer with no mention of Dre.

Is this another Mandela affect thing or am I just dumb?
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11680 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:38 pm to
Hey you can thank them for Parental Advisory on music. That is another question of values vs government overreach.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:38 pm to
I'm pretty smart.
Posted by calgrad
Westlake Village, CA
Member since Dec 2018
106 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:40 pm to
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He said he encountered more racism in his two weeks in the Northeast


I loved growing up on the East Coast, but the bigotry and hatred are two of the reasons that I will never return. The East Coast is still heavily segregated, and much different than the west and south. If you want a microcosm of what it is like, look up Boston Bruin fans racism.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11680 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:41 pm to
California Love was suppose to be on Dr Dre's album but when Tupac got out of prison Death Row gave him all their good material to use. It was on All Eyez On Me, I believe. Dr. Dre is on the song but it is on Tupac's album.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:41 pm to
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Decatur police are investigating after a juvenile died after being shot during the early morning hours of July 4.

At 1:34 a.m. July 4, Decatur police responded to Decatur-Morgan Hospital on a report of a shooting in the area. After arriving at the hospital, police determined the shooting happened near 18th Avenue and Locust Street Southeast.

The victim was treated for a gunshot wound at Decatur-Morgan Hospital. Police said the victim is a minor, but did not provide the person’s age.

quote:

After treatment at Decatur-Morgan Hospital, the victim was transported to UAB Hospital in Birmingham, where the victim later died, police said.


Al.com

Just saw this. Why was a juvenile out at 1:34 am. All of this just pisses me off
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11680 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:44 pm to
My experience is it is about the same but here when you experience it is more passive aggressive where as back home it is in your face. Most southern black people I know prefer southern racism and most northern black people I know prefer northeast racism. I now tell people that I have learned your preferred racism is an acquired taste .
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