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Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:55 pm to
They're not winning it!

They will collapse per usual!
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 6:57 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:20 pm to
I don’t see it Joka. The only 2 games in conference play they will be underdogs in is @Alabama and @Kentucky.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:33 pm to
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I don’t see it Joka. The only 2 games in conference play they will be underdogs in is @Alabama and @Kentucky.
They won’t and shouldn’t be an underdog in any game the rest of the year.
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:02 pm to
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They won’t and shouldn’t be an underdog in any game the rest of the year.


Lot of basketball left to play and the conference schedule will generally always throw some adversity at everybody. Alabama and Auburn have basically 5 comparable opponents and considering how most on here feel that Alabama has a long way to go, kind of shocking how similar the results are aside from Purdue game where we caught them at home and they basically couldn't miss. Would love to run that game back.

Houston - Both dogfight 5 point victories for each, Bama did go to OT

North Carolina - Both controlled the game, Bama at UNC by 15, Auburn Neutral Court by 13

Kent State - Auburn by 23, Bama by 27

Purdue - The outlier of the group Auburn blasted them, Alabama blew a 9 point second half lead and basically melted.

Memphis- Sure it was a preseason game, but Alabama controlled that game with while extremely short handed and Memphis leading scorer having 9 fouls. Auburn won comfortably as well by 14.

Im not taking anything away from Auburn, they have looked like a tank. But this Alabama team has basically produced similar results (minus Purdue) in the big games and yet most who closely follow this Bama team would tell you they have not really figured things out yet.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:13 pm to
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Im not taking anything away from Auburn, they have looked like a tank. But this Alabama team has basically produced similar results (minus Purdue) in the big games and yet most who closely follow this Bama team would tell you they have not really figured things out yet.


AU would have beaten NDakota by 50, and we were tied with like 2 min to go. They did beat OSU by 40, the same OSU that just owned KY from start to finish on a neutral court. We’ve materially underperformed against mid-majors, and AU is ranked double digits higher on NET for a reason. If we don’t start playing substantially better, we’ll be lucky to beat them in Coleman and will get run off the court by 25 at the barn.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:37 pm to
Stop being a pussy. You and mistaken are in here every night crying about how good auburn is.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
28259 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:27 pm to
Tf you talking about? I don’t think Auburn is as good as everyone is saying and said they will win the SEC because of schedule
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:40 am to
You don’t even know what the term basketball IQ means. How would you know how good AU is in basketball?

I fully expect AU to have a lull just like every CBB team does, and hopefully we can take advantage of that. Doesn’t change the facts of the games played so far.

I’m more concerned with how we are playing than any other team. Control what you can control, and we better step up our game if we want to achieve any of the goals our team set prior to the season.


P.S. You might need some therapy. You’re clearly easily offended, so maybe put the phone down and go touch grass or talk to someone who can help you process through your BIG emotions.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
23306 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:34 am to
Can we not make this board as toxic as the Rant please?

Sheesh
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
1122 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:35 am to
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AU would have beaten NDakota by 50, and we were tied with like 2 min to go. They did beat OSU by 40, the same OSU that just owned KY from start to finish on a neutral court. We’ve materially underperformed against mid-majors, and AU is ranked double digits higher on NET for a reason. If we don’t start playing substantially better, we’ll be lucky to beat them in Coleman and will get run off the court by 25 at the barn.


I'm certainly not stating that Alabama has played consistent basketball to this point the way Auburn has. The point I was making is against similar opponents the outcomes have been about the same with the exception of Purdue, yet there seems to be a vibe that in Tuscaloosa the sky is falling and in Auburn they are unbeatable. Alabama has room for growth and to a degree, in basketball at this stage of year that is a good thing. Auburn to their credit plays like a team with 8 seniors and once they get the momentum they are relentless.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:18 am to
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Can we not make this board as toxic as the Rant please? Sheesh


100% agree. I ignored his comment in the pinned recruiting thread for that very reason, and will do so in game threads if needed as well.


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I'm certainly not stating that Alabama has played consistent basketball to this point the way Auburn has. The point I was making is against similar opponents the outcomes have been about the same with the exception of Purdue, yet there seems to be a vibe that in Tuscaloosa the sky is falling and in Auburn they are unbeatable. Alabama has room for growth and to a degree, in basketball at this stage of year that is a good thing. Auburn to their credit plays like a team with 8 seniors and once they get the momentum they are relentless.


I get what you’re saying and somewhat agree, Bama’s ceiling is about as high as AU’s especially if Bama grows into our ceiling. AU is at their ceiling currently, and hopefully they can’t maintain that the whole season. I get it.

That said, the warning signs on TOs and shooting are there for us, even against good teams. AU’s defense is also materially better than ours at this stage of the season, and even if they come back down to earth some on offense that usually doesn’t happen on defense. They’re overwhelming bad opponents like a really good team should (and agree with your seniority comment on them).

I’m hoping they still underperform in conference and really hoping they get a tight whistled crew early in the NCAAT and lose to a mid-major that gets 55 FTs and fouls out half their team…that would be hilarious
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17490 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:47 am to
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You don’t even know what the term basketball IQ means. How would you know how good AU is in basketball?


Basketball IQ is not a real thing. Its just a bullshite talking point from worthless commentators.

Do you deny that you have been posting about how great you think Auburn is?

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P.S. You might need some therapy. You’re clearly easily offended, so maybe put the phone down and go touch grass or talk to someone who can help you process through your BIG emotions.


You sound like you live with your parents. Go tell mommy where big bad Bruce Pearl touched you.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:56 am to
I’ll add that looking at the metrics, we’re the only top 10 team in Kenpom that has a unit ranked over 30 on anything (our defense is 43). There are only 2 teams with a unit over 20 (Kansas O at 26 and Gonzaga D at 24). All 7 other top 10 teams have both units in the top 20, and AU has both units in the top 10 (#1 O, #10 D).

We will have to get materially better on defense if we want to compete for a conference championship or a F4 birth, and some of that means cutting down TOs and bricked 3s that lead to runouts by the other team. We received a really good draw last year in the NCAAT and took advantage. I’m not canceling my flights and hotel to SA until the fat lady sings, but I really hope our defense finds another gear and we start playing smart basketball on offense. That’s how you give yourself a chance in the tourney no matter what the draw is.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 7:58 am
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:00 am to
Quality post. Hope you have a great day and a fun Christmas.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7915 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:03 am to
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Basketball IQ is not a real thing.


As someone who has played the game, a lot, I would strongly disagree.

There are a ton of little things that smart players do to help them win the game. It's why experience is so important, and why experience is what equals the playing field with pure talent.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17490 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:16 am to
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As someone who has played the game, a lot, I would strongly disagree.

There are a ton of little things that smart players do to help them win the game. It's why experience is so important, and why experience is what equals the playing field with pure talent.


Basketball knowledge and experience is certainly a thing. Basketball "IQ" is not a quantifiable thing. It's a talking point. Its something Jay Bilas says when he wants to audibly blow a Duke player. Its not a metric or a stat. It really just means understanding the game and making smart plays.

BBP is referring to when i disagreed with him calling our guys low IQ basketball players. I told him we have a handful of guys with a full college career of experience and a team coming off a final four run. And i asked him what makes him think they are low IQ, but he didnt have an answer.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:17 am to
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As someone who has played the game, a lot, I would strongly disagree.


Our own basketball coach, the best one in our history, has used the term in close to 30 different press conferences since he’s been here. I’m sure Nate Oats is an idiot in SECSol’s mind too.

He’s either a straight troll or an angry FOG because the football team underperformed. Probably best to just ignore at this point.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7915 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:38 am to
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Basketball "IQ" is not a quantifiable thing.


Typically experience leads to bball IQ, usually it is almost synonymous, but not always.

One example, Sears is experienced, but its a low basketball IQ play the way he drives into the paint with no plan 5 or 6 times a game and this usually results in a turnover.

edit: IQ is normally referring to the little things that help you win, though. a lot of small decisions leads to big impact
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 8:40 am
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
5137 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:04 am to
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BBP is referring to when i disagreed with him calling our guys low IQ basketball players. I told him we have a handful of guys with a full college career of experience and a team coming off a final four run. And i asked him what makes him think they are low IQ, but he didnt have an answer.


I know I said I was going to ignore you, but since you’re doubling down, I’ve got to ask this sincerely. How did you interpret the below statement as I was “calling our guys low IQ basketball players.”

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I wouldn’t qualify any of our guys as low IQ players, but they all seem to be around average or just modestly above/below average


It literally said none of them were “low IQ players” and that was after praising a few for being High IQ players. I genuinely am curious how you can interpret someone’s words as the exact opposite of what they posted. I’ve never been able to understand posters that do that unless they’re straight trolling. So if you aren’t trolling, how did you come to the conclusion that I said the exact opposite of what I actually said?

Edit: and if you’re not trolling, why would you say a term that the best coach in our history has used many, many times isn’t “real?” (If you need evidence, go listen to the last 4 signing day press conferences. He uses it for about 25-50% of the guys we sign.)
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by Glorious
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:19 am to
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One example, Sears is experienced, but its a low basketball IQ play the way he drives into the paint with no plan 5 or 6 times a game and this usually results in a turnover.

While I agree, he was pretty damn good at getting that bucket last year (except at the end of a half that shite has never worked)
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 9:33 am
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