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re: Kalen DeBoer & Kane Wommack...

Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by dominantD
Member since Sep 2017
311 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:52 pm to
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Saturday was essentially the first bad thing that has happened since he took over, and you are acting as if the whole program is in jeopardy. Get a grip man.


That is simply not true. There have been signs all season that this defense was gonna struggle to make enough plays to get off the field and get some rest. And the offense has yet to really establish any sort of rushing attack outside of #4. In short, this is just not complementary football. If the defense is playing a ton of snaps and the offense only seems to score on possessions with explosive plays, the D is gonna be worn down at the end of games.

Also, the decision to not go onsides kick after the last score against Vandy was another red flag among several on Saturday. Just shows an overall lack of situational awareness. The D had already played a TON of snaps and showed no signs of being able to slow down Vandy’s O. That game was FULL of disturbing signs for the rest of the season, and also whether this head coach and staff have the awareness and moxie to compete at the SEC level consistently. The blueprint has been cast now on how to beat this team, and also that this team is just very beat-able. The only question now becomes, can this staff and team stop the bleeding?
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 10:56 pm
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 6:20 am to
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5102 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:45 am to
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Went back and looked at Washington’s defense the last two years.

They gave up a ton of points. Can’t do that shite in the SEC. He is gonna HAVE to bring in a better DC and give him the reigns.


If you look at his extended coaching record, his team give up a lot of points and they win a lot of close games. This isn't going to be the experience of watching top to bottom dominant teams we've come used to.

We're going to have to face the facts that we have a Brian Kelly type HC. Really good, but not great. Really, how many great coaches are out there? The only ones that folks would call great right now, DeBoer beat two weeks ago and he's 2-0 against the other.

You're right, he'll need to be ruthless in the future and hire a great DC. You can't be consistent in the SEC without a reliable defense.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26136 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:09 am to
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We're going to have to face the facts that we have a Brian Kelly type HC

Eh. DeBoer is significantly better in big game situations
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55979 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:12 am to
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We're going to have to face the facts that we have a Brian Kelly type HC. Really good, but not great.


that isn't really a fact.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5102 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:22 am to
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We're going to have to face the facts that we have a Brian Kelly type HC. Really good, but not great.


that isn't really a fact.



I don't know, the profile seems similar. Lots of big game wins, a couple really bad losses (Tulsa and Navy from his ND days). Both have made title games and lost badly in them. Kelly has produced double digit 10 win seasons throughout his career. They've both proven to be very good coaches, neither are great at this point.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16498 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:52 pm to
Wish one of the reporters had asked Wommack about this:

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Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:05 pm to
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The only ones that folks would call great right now, DeBoer beat two weeks ago and he's 2-0 against the other.


Facts.

He's undefeated against Sark, Riley, Lanning and now Kirby. I truly can't think of a better option available. He needs at least three years because it was obvious there'd be growing pains in his first season especially on defense. Although I agree Kane can get fricked right back to South Alabama.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11494 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 6:58 am to
I don't think the coaching staff changing demeanor is the correcting answer. In fact, it concerns me because defense is the harder side of the ball to fix midseason. Offenses can get better over the course of the season. We saw that happen last season. Defenses? I don't think I've ever seen one in Tuscaloosa or anywhere else get significantly better in-season unless stars returning from injuries was involved.

We don't have any stars out...
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19431 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:01 am to
I still believe in and support KDB just like I beliwved in and supported Saban when he hired a horrible coordinator.

He just can't make that mistake again because he doesn't have the pedigree or time-in like Saban has.

Wommack is an absolute disaster and everyone from Roman Harper to Joel Klatt are teeing off on how bad he has been.

We're predictable. We're not disciplined.

We also have LBs whi are terrified of blocking and struggle to shed blocks so they go under or easy get washed and don't make efforts to get up field because they're making business decisions left and right.

We basically need our QB to score 45 a game to win and even he does the retards in our fanbase hate him (I wonder why?) and look for any reason to blame him or tear him dowb
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19431 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:02 am to
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We don't have any stars out...


We could use a healthy Justin Jefferson at LB

Heck we could use any other person. Open that position up
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6782 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:14 am to
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We're predictable. We're not disciplined.

We also have LBs whi are terrified of blocking and struggle to shed blocks so they go under or easy get washed and don't make efforts to get up field because they're making business decisions left and right.

We basically need our QB to score 45 a game to win and even he does the retards in our fanbase hate him (I wonder why?) and look for any reason to blame him or tear him dowb


But isn't this what used to describe the Pac-12?? Almost to a 'T'? Where did our coach come from?
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8699 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:40 am to
I hope buckling down means changes on the defensive staff. The last six horrendous quarters proves that Wommack isn't up to the Bama standard.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1987 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:42 am to
If you think Sarkisian is a great HC you are clueless. He has he been the epitome of mediocre or a tad better. Last year, his 10th as a HC, was his first 10 win season, he had only won 9 once. His winning % was 61, an average record of 7.5-5.5. This was at three good to great programs: Wash, USCw, UTx. If he did not have a good season last year, he would have been on the hot seat, as the natives were getting restless.

Kirby is good but overrated. Trips over four 5 stars from his back door to his car. Has the state and law enforcement in his pocket, played in the pathetic East (to be fair he did well in big games sans Alabama). Things will change now (again, to be fair he got an even shorter end of the stick this year than Alabama - Sankey makes me sick).

DeBoer is 2-0 vs Sarkisian, 3-0 vs Lanning, 2-0 vs Riley, 1-0 vs Smart. Probably was underdog in every game. Is 13-3 vs ranked teams in career (only 1 of the 13 are at Bama).

Brian Kelly has no record like that.

He probably played a lot of close games because his teams were often not as good as the opponent, though he did play close against poorer teams as well.
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