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Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:43 pm
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:43 pm
Vs Clemson we ran the ball 31 times. Josh Jacobs, a current top 5 RB in the NFL got 11 of those 31 carries.

Does anyone else think that’s a problem?

I mean i love the idea of letting everyone play, and having fun, and singing kumbaya, but at a certain point do these miscalculations relative to personnel have to be looked at and criticized? We had perhaps the best RB in the world on our team last year, and he was getting 1/3 of the carries.

Just because we’ve got 3 “NFL guys” at one position doesn’t mean they should all be considered equal in talent. Is this guy the best running back in the league, or is he the 50th best running back in the league? I feel like our staff should be able to make these evaluations, and gameplan accordingly

Watching Josh Jacobs demoralize NFL defenses week after week almost makes me sick. How did the staff completely sleep on this guy?
It would be like if Ohio State had given Ezekiel Elliot 1/3 of the carries while he was there. How stupid would that’ve been? Well Jacobs is perhaps even better than Ezekiel Elliot.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14481 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:47 pm to
No. The other backs ran the ball pretty well. Better than Jacobs on that particular night in fact.

If I thought it had anything to do with us losing it might bother me but it didn’t.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:52 pm to
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No. The other backs ran the ball pretty well. Better than Jacobs on that particular night in fact. If I thought it had anything to do with us losing it might bother me but it didn’t.

No. The right decision would’ve been to give Jacobs at least 80% of the carries in that game because he was the best running back in the entire country, and roll with whatever he was able to do. The point is that you have no idea what he might’ve done given the opportunity.

You can’t just look at stats and say, “oh he wasn’t running well.”
What if 3-4 of his runs happened to be blown up in the backfield? You think that might affect his stats on 11 carries? You can’t base your opinion on stats. The reality is that he was by far the best back on our team last year
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14481 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:53 pm to
You have no idea either. He may have fumbled three times.

And why start a thread if your entire mission is to dismiss any alternative points of view?
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:00 pm to
No
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:06 pm to
I loved Baby Rhino. But he’s wearing silver and black now, not Crimson. I still follow him and root for him buts a casual interest now. We’ve got things closer to home to worry about this year.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:09 pm to
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You have no idea either. He may have fumbled three times. And why start a thread if your entire mission is to dismiss any alternative points of view?

Sorry but it’s hard for me to see any rationale in what you’re saying. Josh Jacobs might’ve been the best running back of the entire Saban era - something we’ll never know for sure, but judging by his play in the NFL, it’s certainly possible.

Maybe he would’ve fumbled ten times, but usually the best strategy is to identify your superstar players, and give them the ball as much as possible. Build your team identity around them.
Josh Jacobs will have to go down as one of the best to ever come through Alabama. He might end up in the NFL hall of fame barring injury, and to think he was on the bench for the majority of every single game here? He never even started?
That’s just inexcusable.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:15 pm to
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We’ve got things closer to home to worry about this year.

I agree, but this points to a larger problem that we have here.
Imagine if Clyde Edwards Helaire had been given 33% of the snaps vs us last week. Do we still lose that game?

The point is that ONE player and ONE play can win/lose an entire game. Our staff is making some pretty egregious personnel errors when one of the best running backs in the entire NFL never started a game here.

Idk what it has to do with this season, but the point is, our staff is starting to look bad
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:28 pm to
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And why start a thread
I don't think this is the first time he started one of these threads.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3349 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:43 pm to
Tua threw a pick 6, Thompson let Higgins run right by him, Tua forced another throw for a pick, Saban chose a fake FG over leaving his record breaking offense on the field and Saivion Smith got sniped at the LOS while giving up a 74yd td to Ross.

I don’t see what would be different if Jacobs had gotten more carries.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:51 pm to
The top 3 RB's split the carries pretty equally last year, with Harris getting slightly more than the other two. Jacobs had the lowest ypc of the three of them.

What he's doing in the NFL on a completely different team in a completely different system means nothing in regards to Bama.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:30 pm to
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What he's doing in the NFL on a completely different team in a completely different system means nothing in regards to Bama.

Interesting take. So what you’re saying is that someone who’s a dominant pro football player might not be as good vs college players.
I’ve never heard that argument before, but I guess it sounds better than “our staff made a mistake”
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:37 pm to
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Jacobs had the lowest ypc of the three of them.

Damn! We should’ve told the NFL execs this before they made the huge mistake of drafting Jacobs ahead of Damien Harris. Gruden should’ve looked at the ypc - what an idiot!
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:09 pm to
At this point it doesn't matter. He is gone and so is most of the staff that didn't put him in more
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17904 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:58 pm to
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Josh Jacobs will have to go down as one of the best to ever come through Alabama

Yes... and fellow Tulsa native Mark Anderson is one of our best d-lineman ever The rookie stats say it all.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:04 pm to
No point in crying over spilled milk.

I always thought it was very obvious Jacobs was our best back last year and was confused as to why he wasn't the clear cut #1 guy. We're not privy to all the factors that go into that sort of thing though.

Regardless, all water under the bridge now.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22525 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:05 pm to
Slow your role. I hope and think he can have a great career but tons of players have played well their first 1-2 years only to never reach that level again.
Posted by Fleurs
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:13 pm to
our fans man, smdh
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20761 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:52 pm to
We had a specific wildcat package for Jacobs that we used on short yardage. For some reason, we didn’t depend on it when we got to the goal line.

In my opinion, it was a mistake not to use him more. Of course you could tell me he got 100% of the carries and I’d still think he was underutilized. Jacobs was awesome and I’m sad we didn’t get to see him have a multi-year career like other backs we’ve had.
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