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re: Is Tua really going to wait until his senior year to start?

Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:40 pm to
It is an interesting question for sure.

Put me down as not believing he will ever usurp Hurts for the starting spot so long as Hurts keeps winning games.

You can say all you want about his passing ability, but QBs like Hurts don't grow on trees. He showed unprecedented poise as a true freshman in huge games(even if it was his legs that made the big plays.)

Tua may very well have a similar 'it' factor, but it is hard to envision Saban ever benching Hurts so long as he doesn't completely melt down at some point.

On one hand it sucks that Tua really might have to sit that long or transfer, but on the other hand, its hard to complain when one of the most dangerous QBs in cfb is in front of him.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:16 am to
Hurts isn’t going anywhere unless he’s injured hence the reason Tua isn’t redshirt. He is a great option at backup. If Hurts has another outstanding season like last year he will be the starter yet again next year. Hurts has the team, they believe and trust in him.

The 1 example of Ridley being frustrated on the field is getting to the point of funny that 1 particular poster keeps bringing it up like some fricking mutiny is happening with the WR’s. It’s not , that is pure delusional fantasy. Football is competitive, good players always want the ball, that’s what you’re seeing and nothing more.

I’m glad Tua is here but he will wait his turn or he can leave. It’s simple.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 9:18 am
Posted by Teague
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:19 am to
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Hurts isn’t going anywhere unless he’s injured hence the reason Tua isn’t redshirt.


That doesn't even make sense. Are you saying if Hurts sucked, they would have redshirted Tua?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:22 am to
The point was, we needed a backup, Tua is the backup and needed to get trash time to be competent if Hurts ever goes down. It’s not rocket science, someone asked why Tua didn’t redshirt.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:27 am to
Isn't there a new rule where a freshman can play a certain amount of games, and still redshirt? Or did that not get approved. I'd hate to see Tua transfer, because he has an arm that is unreal.
Posted by Teague
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Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:33 am to
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The point was, we needed a backup, Tua is the backup and needed to get trash time to be competent if Hurts ever goes down. It’s not rocket science, someone asked why Tua didn’t redshirt.


So what's your non-rocket-science opinion on why they didn't redshirt Tua, letting Mac be the backup, barring catastrophic injury to Jalen?

And, why was AJ redshirted in '09?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:53 am to
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quote: The point was, we needed a backup, Tua is the backup and needed to get trash time to be competent if Hurts ever goes down. It’s not rocket science, someone asked why Tua didn’t redshirt. So what's your non-rocket-science opinion on why they didn't redshirt Tua, letting Mac be the backup, barring catastrophic injury to Jalen? And, why was AJ redshirted in '09?


Are you struggling today? Tua is better than Mac. Tua is the true backup. Tua needed reps should he ever be called to be the QB.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 9:56 am to
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And, why was AJ redshirted in '09?


Because we already had Star Jackson who had redshirted the previous year.

Also AJ was like 180 pounds coming in. He needed the year for physical development.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:03 am to
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Are you struggling today? Tua is better than Mac. Tua is the true backup. Tua needed reps should he ever be called to be the QB.


I do often struggle to get you to understand what I'm saying.

AJ was better than Star Jackson. AJ was the true backup, and almost went in during the NC game. He needed reps, but they preserved his redshirt. Why didn't they do that with Tua?

I don't know. You don't know. And the original comment you made and I responded to was stupid. That's all I'm saying.

This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:55 am to
It really comes off as if you're trying to suggest that Mac Jones is a better quarterback than Tua
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:00 am to
quote:

The 1 example of Ridley being frustrated on the field is getting to the point of funny that 1 particular poster keeps bringing it up like some fricking mutiny is happening with the WR’s. It’s not , that is pure delusional fantasy. Football is competitive, good players always want the ball, that’s what you’re seeing and nothing more.


I don't get the harping on that one play either.

People forget we had a 3-time All-American offensive lineman shove our QB in the second half of the BCSNCG because they didn't get a snap off in time. And we were winning by 4 touchdowns.

Football is an emotional sport. Things that happen in the heat of the moment should not be misinterpreted as an underlying issue.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:02 am to
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It really comes off as if you're trying to suggest that Mac Jones is a better quarterback than Tua


No.

Serious question, do most people just skim over paragraphs and not bother to actually read and use context clues to determine what is being said?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75848 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:05 am to
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AJ was better than Star Jackson. AJ was the true backup, and almost went in during the NC game. He needed reps, but they preserved his redshirt. Why didn't they do that with Tua?


Well they played Star throughout the season when we were up big.

AJ didn't become the true backup until after the SEC Championship Game during bowl prep.

You know, context and all.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:44 am to
People just argue without even knowing what the argument is.

Also, that's not an example of "context."

I point out a non sequitur in boz's reasoning, then people jump on board with random comments because they disagree with points I've made in the past.

Anyway, let's all be friends. I haven't said anything negative about anyone's favorite player. I really don't want to get back on that topic.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:33 pm to
Receivers don't often get irritated about one bad pass. It's when the quarterback consistently misses the receivers or, as bad, is running around sacking himself and doesn't even throw the ball to the open receivers, that is more likely to frustrate them.

We can win nearly every game with what we have. We may even win it all with our limitations, and I hope we do, but I will not be at all surprised if we do not.

edit: And I had planned not to mention it again in this thread, but when a poster insists on it, hell, I'm game for it. Kind of strange when some guys want others to chill on certain topics, but then perpetuate it with their own comments.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2964 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Serious question, do most people just skim over paragraphs and not bother to actually read and use context clues to determine what is being said?


I'm guilty of this sometimes, but I don't post a lot so maybe it keeps me out of trouble.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:48 pm to
And I just pointed that Tua is the backup and they wanted him to have reps. Reps = loss of redshirt. Like Saint mentioned AJ wasn’t the backup until after the SECCG. It’s not hard really but you are trying to be a smart guy and out smart us all with your context BS. We get it, you don’t like me or anything I say. Ignore me if you like.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Receivers don't often get irritated about one bad pass.


Now you are saying you know exactly what Calvin Ridley is thinking and this applies to all receivers? Please stop.

And no at no point did you ever plan to not say anything. You always have to get the last word in and must always feel right. That’s why you have posted no less than 5 times that you were right and everyone else was wrong last year. That’s why you shouldn’t self ban, because I was right last year. Spare us all your BS.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:07 pm to
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Now you are saying you know exactly what Calvin Ridley is thinking and this applies to all receivers?


Did I say that? Did I? Review back and if you find where I said I know exactly what Ridley is thinking, then link it back here. Not kind of what I said, or what you think I meant to say, but where I actually said that. Go ahead. To make it interesting, hold your breath till you find it.



This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Receivers don't often get irritated about one bad pass. It's when the quarterback consistently misses the receivers or, as bad, is running around sacking himself and doesn't even throw the ball to the open receivers, that is more likely to frustrate them.


This statement implies that you think you know what is going on in their heads. You have no idea. Plain and simple. So no need to wait or hold your breathe it’s plain as day.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 5:51 pm
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