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re: Is anyone else starting to think we might roll them?
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:25 am to RiverCityTider
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:25 am to RiverCityTider
Our best is better than Georgia's best...they are just way more consistent and efficient...which maybe that makes them better on average but with both teams playing at their peak I think we're the best team in the land. We just don't see our best as much. The question is can we elevate to that level on Saturday?
This ain't 2021 Bama. We are so much better on the LOS and they are worse up front defensively. Offensively up front UGA is elite, though.
I think we can run on them. Our big O line can lean on them and we can utilize a power running game with Milroe and our RBs. Then play action and take deep shots to Bond/Burton.
In 2021 we had the likes of Chris Owens, Javion Cohen and Emil Ekior up front trying to block their incredible D front.
This ain't 2021 Bama. We are so much better on the LOS and they are worse up front defensively. Offensively up front UGA is elite, though.
I think we can run on them. Our big O line can lean on them and we can utilize a power running game with Milroe and our RBs. Then play action and take deep shots to Bond/Burton.
In 2021 we had the likes of Chris Owens, Javion Cohen and Emil Ekior up front trying to block their incredible D front.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 9:45 am
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:31 am to imjustafatkid
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The man doesn't know his legs are what make him scary to defenses. Unless he gets over that in a week, we're going to be in trouble.
This is the first time he's done that all year. I wouldn't put too much stock into those errors.
Extending plays with your legs so your explosive WRs can get open downfield isn't a bad thing. It's a great thing. I understand what he was trying to do and it's hard to know when to just to take off or when to keep scanning the field. You could be passing up a TD for a 15 yd gain.
I agree he has to figure it out, though. We need Milroe to be assertive and make good decisions. We definitely need his legs.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:43 am to RiverCityTider
Not really. I have hope that we will win, but I’m not really expecting to.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:48 am to Funky Tide 8
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eh, I think that "regressed considerably" is a little hyperbolic. Those were essentially the only two mistakes he made all game.
The illegal forward passes were frustrating, for sure. But they're not the only mistakes he made.
At its core, the issue is situational awareness. He needs to know when to stop scanning the field and take off. That was the reason for the illegal forward passes, and that's one of the reasons our offense is so herky-jerky at times. He's got to be decisive and just take the yards running when they're available.
Getting to (or over) the line of scrimmage and pausing there for a second or two has been a drive-killer on multiple occasions this season. It makes us boom-or-bust as an offense -- when he sees an open receiver and can get it to them, it's a big play. When he doesn't, it's a short gain or a loss.
With the clock rule changes this year, the ability to extend drives has become an incredible weapon, one that I think many folks still haven't fully understood. It's one reason Georgia has been so successful this year. They've had big plays, for sure; but I think the most telling stat for them is time of possession. They're second in the country in TOP (averaging just under 34 minutes per game). Their ability to grind out drives, especially in the second half of games, has allowed them to limit the other team's ability to mount any sort of comeback.
Alabama, by comparison, is 42nd, at 30:56 TOP per game.
Jalen has to take first downs when they're available throughout the game. He did that against LSU and Kentucky, and failed multiple times to do it against Auburn.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:55 am to Amarillo Tide
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The dude normally has all day to eat a sandwich before he throws the ball and has very rarely faced any kind of pressure.
While that's true he also gets the ball out incredibly fast. Their o-line is great but he also avoids sacks because the ball is gone before the pass rush gets to him.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:12 am to Sauron
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The illegal forward passes were frustrating, for sure.
I wonder when someone will develop the technology to have first down lines appear on the actual field for players. I think it'd be a real game changer, but I'm not sure how it can be implemented.
You obviously can't just beam light across the field because it'd get blocked if someone walked in front of the beam. Maybe you can project it down from above?
I guess the other option is to use augmented reality and have players wear a special visor on their helmets that allows them to see the line?
I'm sure some tech wizard will figure it out and make tens of millions of dollars.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:37 am to RiverCityTider
A double digit bama win is in the realm of possible outcomes but I wouldn't predict it.
I think Georgia "knows who they are" more than we do. That can be a positive or a negative. They don't try to do much outside of what they're good at which makes them an easier scout. The QB takes care of the football, and they have some weapons. I think their WR corps is comparable to ours. A bunch of solid guys without an elite go-to player. Bowers is a different animal. We can't let him beat us. I expect one or two big pass plays to their running backs in this game. It's a staple of attacking a Saban/Steele defense.
On our end, from a standpoint of Georgia defending us...what is Alabama really good at? Well they're really good at throwing the deep ball and they're really good sometimes at running with the QB. They're really good sometimes at running outside the tackles. They're really good sometimes at gashing you on the ground with the QB.
I think there's more for Georgia's defense to prepare for with Alabama than vice versa, but I think Georgia does what they do on offense more consistently than Alabama. In a one game scenario it's hard to predict what you're going to get from an offense like that.
I do not think we are built to come back from a large deficit. I think Kirby knows that, so would expect any bag of tricks plays in the playbook to come out early. I'm not necessarily talking flea flickers, but the plays really designed to bust a coverage. The delayed deep drag to Bowers, the max protect delayed release wheel route to the back. They will look to target individual matchups and have 4-5 plays designed to probe a coverage bust.
Really great running quarterbacks are a total wildcard against any defense. Milroe sometimes is that and sometimes isn't. Which one do we get Saturday? The decisive north and south runner, or the guy that drifts backwards in the pocket until he's held it a half second too long and bails late and gets tackled by the shoelace.
My money is on Georgia because I think they're just a little more consistent than us overall and they're a safer pick. They don't seem as mistake prone as we do. You can't have multiple bad snaps against Georgia and expect to win the game. You can't miss multiple kicks or let multiple punts roll an extra 15 yards. You can't grab a defender when the play is already past you. Despite our obvious improvement over the course of the season, we still aren't consistent with doing all the little things right. Top to bottom, Alabama is more talented to the man when it comes to the two deep depth chart, despite what homer Georgia fans would have you believe, but I think Georgia is just more likely to play a clean game which more often than not is the difference when the talent is close to equal
I think Georgia "knows who they are" more than we do. That can be a positive or a negative. They don't try to do much outside of what they're good at which makes them an easier scout. The QB takes care of the football, and they have some weapons. I think their WR corps is comparable to ours. A bunch of solid guys without an elite go-to player. Bowers is a different animal. We can't let him beat us. I expect one or two big pass plays to their running backs in this game. It's a staple of attacking a Saban/Steele defense.
On our end, from a standpoint of Georgia defending us...what is Alabama really good at? Well they're really good at throwing the deep ball and they're really good sometimes at running with the QB. They're really good sometimes at running outside the tackles. They're really good sometimes at gashing you on the ground with the QB.
I think there's more for Georgia's defense to prepare for with Alabama than vice versa, but I think Georgia does what they do on offense more consistently than Alabama. In a one game scenario it's hard to predict what you're going to get from an offense like that.
I do not think we are built to come back from a large deficit. I think Kirby knows that, so would expect any bag of tricks plays in the playbook to come out early. I'm not necessarily talking flea flickers, but the plays really designed to bust a coverage. The delayed deep drag to Bowers, the max protect delayed release wheel route to the back. They will look to target individual matchups and have 4-5 plays designed to probe a coverage bust.
Really great running quarterbacks are a total wildcard against any defense. Milroe sometimes is that and sometimes isn't. Which one do we get Saturday? The decisive north and south runner, or the guy that drifts backwards in the pocket until he's held it a half second too long and bails late and gets tackled by the shoelace.
My money is on Georgia because I think they're just a little more consistent than us overall and they're a safer pick. They don't seem as mistake prone as we do. You can't have multiple bad snaps against Georgia and expect to win the game. You can't miss multiple kicks or let multiple punts roll an extra 15 yards. You can't grab a defender when the play is already past you. Despite our obvious improvement over the course of the season, we still aren't consistent with doing all the little things right. Top to bottom, Alabama is more talented to the man when it comes to the two deep depth chart, despite what homer Georgia fans would have you believe, but I think Georgia is just more likely to play a clean game which more often than not is the difference when the talent is close to equal
Posted on 11/30/23 at 10:40 am to RiverCityTider
UGA plays in the SEC East, which is always a cake walk.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:06 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I do not think we are built to come back from a large deficit. I think Kirby knows that, so would expect any bag of tricks plays in the playbook to come out early.
We need to come out and score first and make them come back from a deficit, unfamiliar territory for them, not for us.
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I think their WR corps is comparable to ours.
Don't agree. Not saying they're bad but ours are better IMO.
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You can't miss multiple kicks or let multiple punts roll an extra 15 yards.
I say we mix it up when we force them to kick. I know Downs got a TD against UT-CHAT, but are we sold with him being full time? I feel like McKinstry's experience might be just as valuable.
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The delayed deep drag to Bowers
They will try to get the ball to Bowers/McConkey/whatever TE they can, until they can't. It's not a matter of if, but when, and how often. He has to be accounted for on EVERY play, in every formation they roll out and motion, to mis-match us. They'll also stay in personnel once they find a mis-match. Don't be afraid to call a TO. Also, we need inside LBs that are 100%. If that means starting 30 and 17, ok, and put in 32 when needed. 17 is from GA too so he'll be ready.
Get 6 points. Don't settle for field goals. If the run game got you there, don't abandon it. Have a plan for Milroe this game, a mission. Don't kick out of bounds, except maybe on punts. Don't let Beck get comfortable. Pressure him, make him run.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:08 am to biggsc
I can see it. I can see us getting rolled too. This game like a lot of games we have played this year has way more outcome possibilities than we are use to.
Keys to me are get to beck when we needed it we have been able to do it this year especially in the second half. Go back and thi k about how many games we ended by pressuring the qb LSU, Tenn Auburn all come to mind probably more.
Have to stop the run on defense.
Hold them to field goals that was how UGA won the natty we kicked 5 fgs and threw a pick. We have been good including the iron bowl about not giving up the td and forcing them to earn it. We give up a td and not a field goal when they went up 24 we probably lose.
Give milroe time on offense losing Jace hurts here.
Keys to me are get to beck when we needed it we have been able to do it this year especially in the second half. Go back and thi k about how many games we ended by pressuring the qb LSU, Tenn Auburn all come to mind probably more.
Have to stop the run on defense.
Hold them to field goals that was how UGA won the natty we kicked 5 fgs and threw a pick. We have been good including the iron bowl about not giving up the td and forcing them to earn it. We give up a td and not a field goal when they went up 24 we probably lose.
Give milroe time on offense losing Jace hurts here.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:10 am to GoatHenry
Also we had a good game plan in the natty on Bowers after going for 100 he went for 4 catches for 30 yards. I never felt like Pete covered tight ends well but he did that day. We also have done a great job under steele preventing big TE games.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:18 am to GoatHenry
Jalen Milroe will have to have a Vince Young or Manziel type of performance for Alabama to win. Georgia is going to score.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:21 am to RiverCityTider
I will have what your smoking and I can't tell you how much I hope you are correct.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:28 am to Bama121212
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We need to come out and score first and make them come back from a deficit, unfamiliar territory for them, not for us.
Not so sure that's what we want based on the history of this season. UGA has gone down 7-0 consistently all year long then they body bag teams. Obviously you want to take a lead early but just saying UGA is not unfamiliar with trailing early.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:29 am to GoatHenry
Have to make them have turnovers
Posted on 11/30/23 at 11:54 am to EGO3x
I ain’t talking 7-0, I am talking 14 or more.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:04 pm to Sauron
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I thought he was turning that corner in his development with the LSU and Kentucky games, but he regressed considerably in the Auburn game.
He took a shot to the leg early in the Kentucky game that hobbled him for a couple of weeks. We couldn't afford to aggravate it any further. I'm hoping he's healthy now, and knows that he can't hold back in the SEC championship game.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:20 pm to EGO3x
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You could be passing up a TD for a 15 yd gain.
This is completely irrelevant once you've already passed the line of scrimmage. The time for decisions is over at that point. It is alarming that we're heading into the final game of the SEC schedule and he has so little awareness of where he is on the field.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:36 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is completely irrelevant once you've already passed the line of scrimmage. The time for decisions is over at that point. It is alarming that we're heading into the final game of the SEC schedule and he has so little awareness of where he is on the field.
Its not like its a on-going problem though. Sure, it happened twice, but I'm chalking them up as flukes. He was just trying to too much in a tense situation in one of the loudest, most hostile stadiums possible.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:56 pm to Bama121212
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He has to be accounted for on EVERY play, in every formation they roll out and motion, to mis-match us.
Bama has their own matchup nightmare at TE in Niblack. I wonder if he gets a lot of work in the passing game on Saturday, a la Howard vs Clemson.
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