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re: If any of you went on twitter to bash a 17 y/o kid after today's game

Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2016 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:00 pm to
You’re really distorting the general view of Kira among the Bama fan base. He is very well loved. Unfortunately, social media means some unfair criticisms for all athletes in the spotlight.. no one is immune. It’s sad, but its true.
Kira is the man, and without him, we probably have a losing record. Focusing on immature fans who misbehave on Twitter wouldn’t be your, or Kira’s, best bet.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:51 am to
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What, brother, was Christ's response to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:27? Was it, "I won't bash you guys, but you really should be less judgy of others"? Heck read the whole 23rd chapter and give me your feedback whether Christ Himself shows us “judginess” or “get along with the crowd”.


1) You're not Jesus
2) The people on this forum are not religious Jewish leaders in the first century A.D.
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How about John the Baptist's response in Matthew 3:7 when the Pharisees and Sadducees were coming to his baptism? Was he nice and sweet and make everyone feel good about themselves, or did he have some harsh and judgmental words? How about the apostle Paul's response to the Judaizers over circumcision in Galatians 5:12? Did that fit in to the Christian, non "Bible thumping" response for you or not?


2) Again, the people on this forum are not 1st Century A.D. Jewish religious leaders.

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By the way, are you not bashing me for bashing them, for bashing Kira? What is this saying about your personal Christian walk?


I'm actually doing what is Biblically authorized and contextually coherent, "you will know them by their fruits". As believers we absolutely are called to hold others claiming Christ to be accountable for our words and actions. Sorry if you don't like Christian accountability.

You comparing yourself reprimanding sports forum posters to Jesus correcting Pharisees is not only laughable but shows a dangerous misunderstanding of Biblical context.

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I find it rather astounding that you, as a professed follower of Christ, would prefer to side with those who would find more problems with speaking out against adults who attack a 17-year-old college kid for not shooting a ball well enough one game, than the principle, which would state that saying demeaning things to a person of any age just because they didn't play a game well is morally indefensible.


I'm not here defending anyone going on Twitter bashing Kira Lewis. What I'm speaking out against is you having a handle like "LovetheLord", then doing something that immediately disparages your witness to others that may not know Christ, and stubbornly trying to defend your position with contextually inaccurate Scriptural arguments.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 8:25 am to
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What, brother, was Christ's response to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:27? Was it, "I won't bash you guys, but you really should be less judgy of others"? Heck read the whole 23rd chapter and give me your feedback whether Christ Himself shows us “judginess” or “get along with the crowd”.


1) You're not Jesus
2) The people on this forum are not religious Jewish leaders in the first century A.D.



What other parts of the Bible do you dismiss as not being relevant today because one is "not Jesus" or a "Jewish leader(s) in the first century A.D."? Do you really believe that the Bible is only relevant to those who were first century Jewish leaders or who were addressed personally and directly?

Luke 18 - A Pharisee and a tax collector were in the synagogue praying. The Pharisee exclaimed how thankful to God he was that he was not like those sinners, and named a litany of sins against others as well as all his supposed good deeds. The tax collector could not lift his eyes, but beat his breast saying, "Have mercy on me Lord, a sinner." Jesus replied, that the tax collector rather than the Pharisee went home justified.

Are you going to tell me that this passage has no application to you, me or anyone else because we are not first century A.D. Pharisees or tax collectors?

John 3:16 - For God so love the world that He sent His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but he will have eternal life.

Does the above apply eternally, or just to the hearers? Are you saved through faith, or just those to whom Jesus was speaking?

Yes, as Christians we do in fact hold one another accountable, but this in no way prevents or discourages Christians from calling those outside of the faith into accountability. That is precisely what evangelism is. We warn others that they are under the wrath of a just and holy God who will by no means tolerate sin and that they must repent and submit themselves to the creator of all things. If they don’t they will perish.

The non-Christian is still held accountable to God's law. God does not say, "Oh, you're not a Christian, so you won't receive repercussions for cheating on your spouse or for alcohol abuse, or for mistreating your children." Brother, if you truly love others, including the non-believer, you should be warning them of their sins and of sin's consequences – temporal and eternal.

People who go to another person's social media, especially a college kid's, to call them names are tell them the they "suck" or that they played a terrible game, etc. are already under curse, and will only become more so. This needs to be pointed out and they need to be called to repent.

I am not sure what you think a Christian witness is? Perhaps to you it means being seen as relevant by people on a sports forum - many of whom hate Christ and Christians. Let me just tell you, if you are a Christian, they don't like you. They will applaud while you are attacking another Christian, and if you refuse to take a stand, they will tolerate you, but they do not like you, your faith and certainly not your Lord.

Christian witness does not mean being a retreating weakling who just says, “Stop picking on me… I will be praying for you.” I have shown you quite clearly from the Bible that there is most definitely a place for calling out morally wrong and harmful behaviors in both the believer and the unbeliever.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Cousin Key
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Posted on 3/8/19 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
994 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:24 am to
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We warn others that they are under the wrath of a just and holy God who will by no means tolerate sin and that they must repent and submit themselves to the creator of all things. If they don’t they will perish … People who go to another person's social media, especially a college kid's, to call them names are tell them the they "suck" or that they played a terrible game, etc. are already under curse, and will only become more so. This needs to be pointed out and they need to be called to repent … I have shown you quite clearly from the Bible that there is most definitely a place for calling out morally wrong and harmful behaviors in both the believer and the unbeliever.


I think you're confusing the message with the medium.

To the best of my knowledge, Jesus didn't see out fame or publicity. When He rebuked someone (or a group of people), He did it as unobtrusively as possible; in private, if He could. He spoke publicly to the Pharisees and Sadducees because they challenged Him in public, when He was teaching. The one time He made a public scene without direct provocation was when He overturned the moneychangers' tables in the temple.

You're taking a shotgun approach to your message, when a rifle would be more appropriate. To put it in today's terms, you're preaching to your entire congregation about the evils of pornography (and condemning them for it in the process) because you learned one person was habitually viewing it.

I'd bet that at least 95% of the members of this board didn't say anything to Kira on social media, yet you directed your diatribe to this board. (And before you object, including the weasel-word "If" in your condemnation didn't help.) I agree with your stance on not bashing a 17-year-old in public. I think you'd have more folks agreeing with you -- and would likely do more good -- by singling out the people you want to address and focusing on them individually, rather than broadcasting your message scattershot to the world. (Or this particular portion of it, anyway.)

And it goes without saying that insulting the people you disagree with isn't the best approach regardless. You're not likely to change minds that way.
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:57 am to
I can definitely respect your thoughts. Much appreciated.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 12:21 am to
What a moronic fraud you are
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:29 am to
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The non-Christian is still held accountable to God's law.

Unless there's not a god or there's multiple gods.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 1:39 pm to
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What a moronic fraud you are


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