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re: How Milroe can grow and reach his true potential

Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8836 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Joe Burrow sucked his first year starting at LSU


Ok. Burrow made about as much of a leap from year 1 to year 2 at lsu as a player can make. You think Milroe can do that? When he can't throw a slant now? Or a swing pass?
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8836 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Penix has played a lot more football than JM


Penix is a qb. Milroe is a running back.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26085 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:25 pm to
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You think Milroe can do that?


Yea, you can find my posts earlier in the year where I said I didn't think that Milroe was a good QB and had issues between the ears.

I'll call him out when he deserves it. I do think he can be coached up and learn.

He was a new QB with a new OC with a Freshman LT and Center snapping the ball at his ankles. It throws off the timing of the play.

If he had all the time in the world and was missing reads/throws. I'd say it's on Jalen
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12779 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:30 pm to
Well he has been thru fall practice 3 times, three spring drills and 3 summer drills in his stay at Bama. It's just a few more sessions and it all could just snap in place for him.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8836 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:36 pm to
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Center snapping the ball at his ankles


The center was a senior, too. Some guys just don't get better. Especially if they're playing in the wrong position.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1559 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:01 pm to
Throwing a pass to a WR on the sideline, like the pass to Bond you pointed out, may be hitting him in stride, but it isn’t the same thing as throwing a WR open. When you do that the WR usually gets YAK yardage. I suspect you already know this. Milroe isn’t garbage, but he’s not elite on the level with Bryce, Mac and Tua. At least Hurts knew when to pull it and run and had the speed and strength to escape defenders and break tackles. Milroe has neither, his speed is hyped and he’s not elusive.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26085 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Well he has been thru fall practice 3 times, three spring drills and 3 summer drills in his stay at Bama



Are we comparing practice to actual games? They aren't comparable. We've had some folks that have been all practice but don't execute during the games because of emotions, etc.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11494 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:11 pm to
I have my doubts Milroe can be the QB Alabama needs to be an effective offense in 2024. I believe the only reason Alabama was able to make Milroe work was a continuous stream of teams that thought the best strategy against this offense was to take away the deep throws and contain Milroe with mush rush and spies. Michigan took the approach Alabama had not seen probably five games and it resulted in a performance more like the early season offense.

Milroe has a big problem with processing defenses. Some of it may be a lack of confidence in his technique to hit windows. Some of it is the man just not having a great idea of what the defense is trying to do pre-snap so he's not even making rational progression reads. It is hard for me to know since I don't have the playbook or game plan adjustments. I do know from my All-22 seat at home games that he routinely missed open receivers that better quarterbacks would have likely recognized. He's just not what I'd expect from 3rd year QB in their 14th game as a starter.

If Sayin or Simpson has a great Spring and Milroe doesn't make marked improvement, QB should be considered a real open competition in the Summer and Fall. Right now I feel like Milroe is a better version of Marcus Randall from Saban's LSU tenure.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22394 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:14 pm to
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At least Hurts knew when to pull it and run and had the speed and strength to escape defenders and break tackles. Milroe has neither, his speed is hyped and he’s not elusive.


I don’t think his speed is hyped. When he gets into another gear he’s pretty damn fast. Agree about the escapability and elusiveness. That’s mental and instinctive. Not sure if he can develop that in an off season.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26085 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:16 pm to
Now we are saying that Milroe isn't elusive and doesn't have speed?


This board has went full retard.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
19350 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:20 pm to
He may have reached his ceiling.

He's not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

#LANK/STANK

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55982 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

He may have reached his ceiling.

He's not nearly as good as he thinks he is.

#LANK/STANK



I'm assuming you were one of the ones that said the same thing after the Texas game.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1559 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:31 pm to
He has speed and elusiveness in the open field when he’s running north/south and during QB runs sometimes, but not when a play breaks down. Part of being a mobile QB is being able to use your speed and elusiveness when the play breaks down, and he can’t even see the play breaking down fast enough to get away. A mobile QB that gets sacked 5 times in a game ain’t mobile. You can say he’s elusive and fast all you want, but he ain’t elusive enough or fast enough to be successful as a mobile QB and we all know he isn’t good enough to be a pocket passer.

Dude was good for us this year as a stop gap til someone better steps into that role, but for the love, it’s time to move on from this dude.

Bottom line, his play yesterday DID NOT remotely come close to letting all the “naysayers” know…unless he was intending to let them know he’s really not that good of a QB.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7617 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Penix will carve Michigan up. I would bet my vacation home Michigan doesn't sack Penix 5x in the 1st half.


I agree with this.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
19350 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:40 pm to
We will not win a natty with Milroe at QB.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1559 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

We will not win a natty with Milroe at QB.


Correct, we might be able to win another SEC championship, and we can make the playoffs, but that’s it. That’s the ceiling.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22273 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:33 pm to
We've recruited at the highest level possible for 15 years, and somehow we were stuck with starting a 6 year project at the most important position on the field. There's really no excuse for it.
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6439 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:43 pm to
First, his arm strength isn't as good as Penix.
Second, he doesn't see the field like Penix.
Third, he doesn't have the receivers or offensive line as Penix.
Finally, he doesn't have a center like penix
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6607 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:54 pm to
Why are people talking about "throwing people open" when the biggest deficiency is not responding properly when protection breaks down?

9 out of 10 plays, throwing down field was not an option.

What is a qb supposed to do when protection breaks down?

Shouldn't there always be an option or two? Back in the flat, quick out? Something that can be completed in the 1.5 seconds He actually has.

It's the negative plays that lost the game. Not the lack of leading recievers.

Why focus on the irrelevant?
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 5:56 pm
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23174 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:18 pm to
Watch all the film he can.

The guy isn't dumb just needs a good qb coach.
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