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re: Eyabi Anoma currently not enrolled at Alabama

Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:03 pm to
Hope the kid gets it together at Maryland.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:07 pm to
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Hope the kid gets it together at Maryland


I hope he ends up somewhere better than Maryland.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:16 pm to
No, son. I mildly criticized Cecil. I tore into 3down10 after he attacked me without provocation. Get your accusations straight.

Honestly, though, half the lot of you are vaginas who need thicker skin.

Edit: just realized you are 3down10.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:36 pm to
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No, son. I mildly criticized Cecil. I tore into 3down10 after he attacked me without provocation. Get your accusations straight.



I said you were fricking stupid after you said something that was fricking stupid.

quote:


Honestly, though, half the lot of you are vaginas who need thicker skin.



Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6971 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:37 pm to
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prevatt33


You continue to be the worst poster this board has ever seen. At least you are consistent.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:39 pm to
I don't care.
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:39 pm to
I don't care.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:57 pm to
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TidalSurge1: It seeems to me Cecil is butthurt that he couldn't get any info on Anoma from UA. Pathetic piece of reporting, iyam. I've never understood why so many people think he's a great reporter. I quit reading his stuff years ago.


You all attacked the messenger and basically anyone who thought there was something to that message. It was you guys who couldn't handle what was going on, not the other way around. 

False.

I gave my thoughts on the article. Imo Cecil was whining about UA not providing any info beyond the one-sentence statement that Anoma is currently not attending classes. Back in the old TideSports days, I read a lot of Cecil's articles. Tbh, I just wasn't very impressed and don't get why so many people (then and now) act like he's worthy of a bronze statue on the quad. It had nothing to do with shooting the messenger. There was only one item of new info in his article.

I didn't "attack" any posters. In fact, I clearly stated that even though I agreed with some of prevatt33's points, I don't endorse his demeaning and insulting behavior toward other posters.

I certainly did say that I felt some people were jumping to conclusions prematurely. And I advocated patience until more information came to light. But I also said I think it's fine to discuss various possibilities of what might be going on. I just don't think a jury should issue a verdict before all of the evidence has been presented.

I also said I was quite content to just wait and see how it played out and that I'd still be content, no matter the outcome. And I am. I've already prayed for Eyabi Amoma to learn well from his mistakes and I've moved on.

This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:28 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21879 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Back in the old TideSports days

When life was simple...

The move to woolly and rebuilding the recruiting page from scratch was brutal...

So much scar tissue. But, not so much that I don't recall or disagree that Cecil is an average reporter at his best. He, and his bad haircut, are a stones throw away from clickbait topics, news, and research as of late.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:19 am to
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I don't have a dog in the fight that's gone on in this thread, but it seems that some have criticized Cecil for not providing more info. Just maybe, Cecil knew all of this but only published what he felt he could publish as a responsible journalist. I would expect Cecil Hurt to know most, if not all, of the chatter that anyone here hears. He's not going to publish anything about failed drug tests. Furthermore, if the university divulged that info, it would likely be a FERPA violation. So I don't get the crap Cecil got from some people about all this.


This.

Anybody that knows the Tide/Tuscaloosa knows Cecil is a well connected, responsible journalist. It's only the goobers channeling their inner Trump putting him in this click-hunting, "muh fake news" category.

Most people don't even understand or recognize real journalism anymore, much less appreciate it...which is sad.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 6:20 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13142 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:45 am to
Most people don't even understand or recognize real journalism anymore, much less appreciate it...which is sad.

and the reason is due to there is NOT Much of the above.

You miss your bisexual affirmative action failure Obama?

Not me.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:55 am to
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I read a lot of Cecil's articles. Tbh, I just wasn't very impressed and don't get why so many people (then and now) act like he's worthy of a bronze statue on the quad


I guess because his popularity among Alabama fans goes way back to the pre www days, when he was the best source, bar none, for Alabama football. Then, long before recruiting websites, Hurt had a recruiting hotline, and though it may not seem like a big deal now, it was absolutely a big deal at the time (and yes, Kirk McNair's Bama magazine predated the hotline). Later, when The Birmingham News became mostly a bash Bama rag, Alabama fans could depend on Hurt to be forthright, but fair, and with just a touch of homerism. So he's given a lot of latitude. Kind of the same with McNair.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:59 am to
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You miss your bisexual affirmative action failure Obama? Not me.


Can't defend Trump without bringing up Obama or Hillary?

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13190 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:07 am to
TS some of these posters are starting to remind me of Tidefans types. If you do not follow lockstep with them that automatically become aggressive and very defensive. This site used to be great to share differing opinions but now it becomes a battle of wills because you may not share the same point of view.

I am with you regarding Cecil and the article. I really have no issue with what he does but do not look for him as all great knowing Oz that many seem to do.

Posted by BamaReb
N Carolina
Member since Nov 2017
296 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:32 am to
This place has been a little pissy lately.

There aren't going to be any all knowing posters/insiders. As BamaBo pointed out, the place is on lockdown. Saban is managing the message and he does practice disinformation.

Some on here want to shoot the messenger over every piece of information that doesn't pan out. Chill peeps; relax. Alabama is still on the greatest run in college football history. It won't last forever, but it's not ending this year either. Enjoy!

Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 9:40 am to
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I guess because his popularity among Alabama fans goes way back to the pre www days, when he was the best source, bar none, for Alabama football. Then, long before recruiting websites, Hurt had a recruiting hotline, and though it may not seem like a big deal now, it was absolutely a big deal at the time (and yes, Kirk McNair's Bama magazine predated the hotline). Later, when The Birmingham News became mostly a bash Bama rag, Alabama fans could depend on Hurt to be forthright, but fair, and with just a touch of homerism. So he's given a lot of latitude. Kind of the same with McNair.

Yeah, I realize all of that. I wasn't trying to say that Cecil isn't or hasn't been a solid beat writer, and for so long that he's sort of an icon. He has a likeable personality too. But some people act like he's the untouchable gold standard. If you post anything the least bit critical about any of his work they'll form a lynch mob.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:14 am to
Cecil is certainly fallible and not above criticism, but the dude has been the gold standard for a long, long time. He has my respect because he doesn't post click-bait garbage like 90% of sports "journalists" these days. If he writes something, it's because he knows it to be absolutely true. And he is STILL extremely well connected in Tuscaloosa. The fact that Cecil broke the Anoma news was all I need to know he was gone. Cecil doesn't play games to get attention. He has my respect due to a very long track record of being connected, honest and trustworthy.

I think some of y'all who were defending Anoma (and knocking Cecil) are perhaps a little embarrassed and trying to save face now that it's clear he was right, as he usually is.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
31485 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:32 am to
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There aren't going to be any all knowing posters/insiders


That doesn’t stop some from pretending.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:33 am to
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I think some of y'all who were defending Anoma (and knocking Cecil) are perhaps a little embarrassed and trying to save face now that it's clear he was right, as he usually is.

I wasn't defending Anoma. I was advocating that fans should wait for additional reliable info instead of jumping to premature conclusions. I said I think it's fine to discuss what might be going on. I even posted a little bit myself about some factors that might be involved, such as a family member being seriously ill.

I'm not embarrassed about anything I posted in this thread. My only criticism of Cecil's article was that it seemed to me he was doing some subtle whining about not being able to get any details from UA about Anoma, other than the statement that he isn't currently attending classes.

By the next day, other outlets reported more details, such as Anoma's recent suspension and travels. Did Cecil know about those details when he broke his story and purposely exclude them? I don't know and I honestly don't care.

This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by prevatt33
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 10:56 am to
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it's clear he was right


For the record, all Cecil did was report what the university said, i.e. "Anoma is not currently attending classes." What could he have been right or wrong about? The spelling?

I don't recall anyone accusing Cecil of being wrong factually. I'm not saying this to wade into any further conversation on the topic - only to prevent people's words from being rewritten. I, for one, only questioned Cecil in his writing of a purposeful incomplete story, which I also indicated is a choice all journalists have to make. When to publish. Cecil chose to publish this blurb, and while defensible and even correct from certain perspectives, is not in my opinion the best type of article. I prefer the a whole story to be told, rather than a blurb that fosters conjecture.
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