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Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:44 am to crimsontater
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:44 am to crimsontater
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saban wanting to stay up tempo. then what big 12 oc would be the best fit?
The Cam and Nick Marshall era Auburn, and Hugh Freeze Ole Miss sure made a huge impression on Saban. I never, ever, thought he'd prefer an offense that, to that degree, impacts a team's own defense.
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:05 am to phil4bama
lol you're just another nancyboy. Get up from the fetal position and start acting like a bog boy! There are boys that want to become men in this world and there are boys and men that like things the Saban way!
Including Gene Stallings who has always said THE FUN IS IN THE WINNING!!! GOOHWTBPS and stop acting like a barner snowflake!
Including Gene Stallings who has always said THE FUN IS IN THE WINNING!!! GOOHWTBPS and stop acting like a barner snowflake!
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:07 am to Bryantboyz
How sweet will it be next year when Saban kicks Clemson in the balls and pushes their shite in? It’s gonna happen, believe that!
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:07 am to prevatt33
The world is full of cowards! Prevatt33 is dead on! Phil's post reeks of cowardice and pussification!
Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:18 am to Bryantboyz
nuts......which world is phil4bama in? 
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:02 am to crimsoncarma
Odd are 95% of the posters on this site never played a down of football and even less played a down of college football. They keep clutching their pearls.
Nick Saban got embarrassed by His Teams play on Monday and is all you need to know. He will shake every tree in TitleTown in order to get it right.
Nick Saban got embarrassed by His Teams play on Monday and is all you need to know. He will shake every tree in TitleTown in order to get it right.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:04 am to phil4bama
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Here's the cold, hard truth that we don't want to face, myself included. Dabo Swinney may have just singlehandedly crumbled the Dynasty in 60 minutes of total destruction Monday night. But not because of the game, but what it revealed.
Do you mean the way charlie weatherbie prevented the birth of the dynasty on 2007?
Or maybe you mean how kyle whittingham aborted it in 2009.
What about nick saban getting hit the gut with a bag of frickin oranges in the 2010 iron bowl?
And let us not forget back to back crushing losses in the "kick six" and against oklahoma. Oklahoma beat our fricking asses and after the "kick six", every dipshit sportswriter in the country had gus malzahn pegged as the new big dog of SEC football.
Hugh freeze gutted the dynasty in 2014 and 2015. I mean who the frick loses to ole miss, right? How shameful was all that shite? Those were the "nick saban can't adjust" years.
And finally, what was the narrative after losing to ohio state in 2014? That's right, nick saban is slipping on defense and Alabama can't beat a third string quarterback.
Alabama has suffered humiliating defeats under nick saban and on big stages before, this isn't new. The only way nick saban doesn't adapt, just as he always has is if he quits.
Panic when he retires, not before.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 10:34 am to Gene Ween
Well said 
Posted on 1/12/19 at 11:40 am to Tider95
This team was one short unit (defense) of being the most dominant team ever put on a football field! If they had their typical Alabama defense that we are accustomed to, no one comes close this year. The final score of the championship game was misleading big time! It was just a perfect storm for Clemson. Bama will be just fine!!
Posted on 1/12/19 at 11:46 am to Gene Ween
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And let us not forget back to back crushing losses in the "kick six" and against oklahoma. Oklahoma beat our fricking asses and after the "kick six", every dipshit sportswriter in the country had gus malzahn pegged as the new big dog of SEC football.
Hugh freeze gutted the dynasty in 2014 and 2015. I mean who the frick loses to ole miss, right? How shameful was all that shite? Those were the "nick saban can't adjust" years.
And finally, what was the narrative after losing to ohio state in 2014? That's right, nick saban is slipping on defense and Alabama can't beat a third string quarterback.
Alabama has suffered humiliating defeats under nick saban and on big stages before, this isn't new. The only way nick saban doesn't adapt, just as he always has is if he quits.
:cheers:
Posted on 1/12/19 at 12:17 pm to Gene Ween
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Do you mean the way charlie weatherbie prevented the birth of the dynasty on 2007?
Or maybe you mean how kyle whittingham aborted it in 2009.
What about nick saban getting hit the gut with a bag of frickin oranges in the 2010 iron bowl?
And let us not forget back to back crushing losses in the "kick six" and against oklahoma. Oklahoma beat our fricking asses and after the "kick six", every dipshit sportswriter in the country had gus malzahn pegged as the new big dog of SEC football.
Hugh freeze gutted the dynasty in 2014 and 2015. I mean who the frick loses to ole miss, right? How shameful was all that shite? Those were the "nick saban can't adjust" years.
And finally, what was the narrative after losing to ohio state in 2014? That's right, nick saban is slipping on defense and Alabama can't beat a third string quarterback.
Alabama has suffered humiliating defeats under nick saban and on big stages before, this isn't new. The only way nick saban doesn't adapt, just as he always has is if he quits.
Panic when he retires, not before.
None of those losses were as devastating as the Clemson game. Nearly all of them were close games. Vs Oklahoma was a consolation game and I think the team definitely were not motivated for it.
It isn't only the fact that Clemson so thoroughly kicked our arse, but the fallout since then. We knew we were losing Locksley, but the loss of Enos is very tough, then Gattis and Key too. This isn't the typical lost game.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 12:18 pm to crimsoncarma
This is different in one singular important way. We bounced back from all of those losses and kept on rolling and I hope we do again but here’s the difference: those games were important games, but none of them were THE game.
When have you ever seen a CNS team get their arse kicked when all the chips were on the table? We didn’t lose on a last second pick play. We got the shite kicked out of us.
Probably the closest to it is the OSU loss in the playoffs but even then, we were down by 6 points with 4 minutes left in the game when the defense finally broke and gave up 1 big play we couldn’t afford to give. We still answered that score with 2 minutes left, just couldn’t get the ball back.
In this game, we were finished after the 1st drive of the 2nd half with the ill advised fake FG. Clemson basically kept us at arms length for the rest of the 2nd half of that ball game. We couldn’t stop them and we couldn’t score to attempt a comeback. That’s the difference.
Let’s see where we go from here.
When have you ever seen a CNS team get their arse kicked when all the chips were on the table? We didn’t lose on a last second pick play. We got the shite kicked out of us.
Probably the closest to it is the OSU loss in the playoffs but even then, we were down by 6 points with 4 minutes left in the game when the defense finally broke and gave up 1 big play we couldn’t afford to give. We still answered that score with 2 minutes left, just couldn’t get the ball back.
In this game, we were finished after the 1st drive of the 2nd half with the ill advised fake FG. Clemson basically kept us at arms length for the rest of the 2nd half of that ball game. We couldn’t stop them and we couldn’t score to attempt a comeback. That’s the difference.
Let’s see where we go from here.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 12:28 pm to phil4bama
The score is so deceptive. Alabama drove the ball fine, this game with even 50th percentile for us in terms of finishing drives looks far closer and we just talk about the defense, instead everything went wrong and we played a bottom 10 percentile game while Clemson played 90-100th percentile game.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 12:50 pm to John Milner
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None of those losses were as devastating as the Clemson game.
Consider the possibility you have recency bias.
After the 2012 season for instance, this fanbase and the college football world at large was absolutely convinced "the man" had lost his edge and was as unadaptable as les miles. Predictions of a dead dynasty were just as strong then as they are now. Everyone was saying it, I remember. After all, 2012 alabama was a balls out championship level squad that had two back to back bad losses. The chip kelley's and gus malzahn's of the world were playing chess and the likes of nick saban and les miles were playing checkers.
Also when saban hired kiffin, every proto-human on the planet right down to the taliban laughed their asses off, believing "the man" had finally lost his shite and lane kiffin would be the downfall of Alabama football. It was the collective wet dream of every fanbase in this conference and nick saban was a laughing stock for hiring him. Kiffin was regarded as an act of desperation because folks needed to believe no one else would work for saban. Well i don't need to tell you what followed.
2012 ended about as bad as a season could end and it was just as horrible then as it is now. 2013 held copious amounts of mystery and uncertainty, especially with blake sims under center and kiffin calling plays.
The similarities between now and then are striking. We've been down this road before, it isn't new. At the end of 2012, alabama football was absolutely devestated and in crisis. In 2013 alabama transformed into something completely different than it was before and reasserted itself.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:09 pm to Gene Ween
It looks like you have your years crossed up but your point is valid. Anyone willing to bet against Saban and Alabama right now needs their head examined. We have a future number one draft pick coming back to anchor a very talented offense and Tosh should be much better in year two. I feel pretty good about 2019.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:11 pm to PBD4BAMA
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This team was one short unit (defense) of being the most dominant team ever put on a football field!
Pardon me but, I'm about to rant.
Defense is not "one short unit." Defense represents closer to 50% of the team than it does 33.3%.
Now factor in the fact that this team had special teams play so bad it could force blood from the eyeballs, and you've got a seriously flawed football team nowhere near "all time great."
Lester Cotton was bad enough to pull the entire OL down to Meh at times.
The LB's were awful. Ive read some bullshite on here about how the lack of depth on the DL contributed to the poor LB play... I'm sorry, but that is bullshite. The LB's were lost in coverage, in the wrong gaps, couldn't get off blocks, took terrible angles to the football, and missed open field tackles all season long. Awful. Putrid. Embarrassing.
The DB's were hit and miss against the pass, and absolutely sucked in run support. I dont think this fanbase has realized how awful these DB's were in run support. Surtain in particular will run from contact, and he did that in H.S. as well... Watch his reel and you'll see. He's going to be a lockdown corner sooner than later as he is immensely talented, but he will never be a factor in run support.
Add these DB's to our poor LB's, and there was a total lack of "gang tackling," and players "flying to the football" like we've seen from defenses of the past.
The QB could not grasp the importance of taking what the defense gives. The QB talked about being humble, but always put his personal glory above the team concept with all the hero ball, and holding the ball so long waiting for the homerun that he risked injury and turnovers routinely. Players wide open in the flats all fricken season all the way down to the fricken title game... Wide Open.
(the gunslinger giveth '17 - the gunslinger taketh away '18)
Also, not to pile on, and not to say it is Tua fault that he is frail, but Tua could not, and likely will not ever be healthy for more than a couple of games a year. I can't recall having ever seen a player lay on the ground, and limp off the field as much as Tua. I held my breath every. single. time. he got so much as tackled. I mean the dude got hurt in almost every game he played this season. Broke his freaking hand in spring ball, and the injuries have never stopped since.
What did he do to his right hand in the natty game ?
The punt returner refused to return punts. No matter if he had room or not, Waddle was a fair catch machine. Love Waddle, and I think he is going to be a great one, but my gawd what good is all the speed and elusiveness if you take a fair catch 99% of the punts ? (yes, some teams punted short to neutralize, but even booming punts where he had fricken 15 yds of cushion he would call a fair catch)
The DC grew a vagina vs every good offense Bama played, and lacked any creativity in getting pressure on the QB. To the point that even I bought into the homer notion that Bama was "saving"
some exotic blitz packages for the "big game." Nope. They simply did not exist. The Head Coach has a phobia of using timeouts in any strategic way. Not to buy time for the defense to breathe in the midst of an opponent cramming the ball down the D's throat. Not to run a two minute offense before the end of a half. Not for anything. Not even to get the defense out of a bad alignment. (not even when there is one play to decide a title game, and he knows his D is playing the wrong technique. see '17 clemson natty)
Can any of the Bama beat reporters ask Saban where the vault is that he keeps all his saved timeouts in, and why ?
/rant
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:21 pm to PowHound
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Pardon me but, I'm about to rant. Defense is not "one short unit." Defense represents closer to 50% of the team than it does 33.3%. Now factor in the fact that this team had special teams play so bad it could force blood from the eyeballs, and you've got a seriously flawed football team nowhere near "all time great." Lester Cotton was bad enough to pull the entire OL down to Meh at times. The LB's were awful. Ive read some bull shite on here about how the lack of depth on the DL contributed to the poor LB play... I'm sorry, but that is bull shite. The LB's were lost in coverage, in the wrong gaps, couldn't get off blocks, took terrible angles to the football, and missed open field tackles all season long. Awful. Putrid. Embarrassing. The DB's were hit and miss against the pass, and absolutely sucked in run support. I dont think this fanbase has realized how awful these DB's were in run support. Surtain in particular will run from contact, and he did that in H.S. as well... Watch his reel and you'll see. He's going to be a lockdown corner sooner than later as he is immensely talented, but he will never be a factor in run support. Add these DB's to our poor LB's, and there was a total lack of "gang tackling," and players "flying to the football" like we've seen from defenses of the past. The QB could not grasp the importance of taking what the defense gives. The QB talked about being humble, but always put his personal glory above the team concept with all the hero ball, and holding the ball so long waiting for the homerun that he risked injury and turnovers routinely. Players wide open in the flats all fricken season all the way down to the fricken title game... Wide Open. (the gunslinger giveth '17 - the gunslinger taketh away '18) Also, not to pile on, and not to say it is Tua fault that he is frail, but Tua could not, and likely will not ever be healthy for more than a couple of games a year. I can't recall having ever seen a player lay on the ground, and limp off the field as much as Tua. I held my breath every. single. time. he got so much as tackled. I mean the dude got hurt in almost every game he played this season. Broke his freaking hand in spring ball, and the injuries have never stopped since. What did he do to his right hand in the natty game ? The punt returner refused to return punts. No matter if he had room or not, Waddle was a fair catch machine. Love Waddle, and I think he is going to be a great one, but my gawd what good is all the speed and elusiveness if you take a fair catch 99% of the punts ? (yes, some teams punted short to neutralize, but even booming punts where he had fricken 15 yds of cushion he would call a fair catch) The DC grew a vagina vs every good offense Bama played, and lacked any creativity in getting pressure on the QB. To the point that even I bought into the homer notion that Bama was "saving" some exotic blitz packages for the "big game." Nope. They simply did not exist. The Head Coach has a phobia of using timeouts in any strategic way. Not to buy time for the defense to breathe in the midst of an opponent cramming the ball down the D's throat. Not to run a two minute offense before the end of a half. Not for anything. Not even to get the defense out of a bad alignment. (not even when there is one play to decide a title game, and he knows his D is playing the wrong technique. see '17 clemson natty) Can any of the Bama beat reporters ask Saban where the vault is that he keeps all his saved timeouts in, and why ?
Dang, Power 5 schools must be lining up for your wisdom and coaching prowess. Bama might have won 12 in a row with you at the helm.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:21 pm to Gene Ween
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After the 2012 season for instance, this fanbase and the college football world at large was absolutely convinced "the man" had lost his edge and was as unadaptable as les miles.
we won the national title for the 2012 season.
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Also when saban hired kiffin, every proto-human on the planet right down to the taliban laughed their asses off, believing "the man" had finally lost his shite and lane kiffin would be the downfall of Alabama football.
I was pretty stoked when we hired Kiffin
you
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In 2013 alabama transformed into something completely different
2013 we lost to Auburn. The "kick 6" game.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:26 pm to PowHound
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The QB could not grasp the importance of taking what the defense gives
Tua was so good at checking down in the early part of the season that Gary Danielson raved about it several times.
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Tua could not, and likely will not ever be healthy for more than a couple of games a year.
Tua played quite a lot in 2017 and was not injured at all as far as I can remember. He also went injury free this past year up to the Arkansas game. In spite of the fact that some fans, even our own, decided he was soft, the knee injury suffered in the Arkansas game affected him the rest of the year, then the ankle injury vs UGA.
Posted on 1/12/19 at 1:29 pm to Orion6
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Dang, Power 5 schools must be lining up for your wisdom and coaching prowess. Bama might have won 12 in a row with you at the helm.
Meh, dude said this team was "one short unit" from being the GOAT.
I'm sorry, but that is not true. See rant again for non-homer analysis.
It was a great team. It was the second best team in the nation as a matter of fact even with all the flaws, but "GOAT?" No. However the talent for a possible GOAT team is there, but they've got to put it all together, and develop more leadership and chemistry for it all to come together.
Also wouldn't trade Nick Saban for any coach in the nation even with his peculiar reluctance to utilize his timeouts.
What's with the refusal to use his timeouts !
It's comical.
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