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Emotion driven team?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:05 am
So far what I have seen isa team with talent that plays based on emotion. At FSU there was low emotion. Against ULM there was high emotion. The problem with an emotion driven team is that the season becomes an emotional roller coaster. It is rare for a team to be UP every week. They run hot against good teams. They run hot when they have an "us against the world" mentality with something to prove. High emotional output is difficult to sustain.
What I want to see is memory muscle execution. Do your job every play. Trust your team mates to do their job every play. Then they become consistent. That level of taking care of business has been missing since the covid team took the field. Leadership and accountability is required.
What I want to see is memory muscle execution. Do your job every play. Trust your team mates to do their job every play. Then they become consistent. That level of taking care of business has been missing since the covid team took the field. Leadership and accountability is required.
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:34 am to Tw1st3d
I would venture to say that the majority of college football teams are emotionally driven. Saban was one of the very, very rare few who was able to get his teams not to be fueled by emotions, and that's why he was able to tally up 6 NC's. But he's the only one who has been able to do something like that as well. There hasn't been another coach in history who did what he did in the time frame he did it and there more than likely won't be another. It's why he's the GOAT.
I expect more consistency from DeBoer's Alabama teams, but there's no way he'll ever reach the level Saban achieved. Saban was a 1 of 1.
I expect more consistency from DeBoer's Alabama teams, but there's no way he'll ever reach the level Saban achieved. Saban was a 1 of 1.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:42 am to NWLA_Bama
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I expect more consistency from DeBoer's Alabama teams, but there's no way he'll ever reach the level Saban achieved. Saban was a 1 of 1.
Exactly. Saban's teams were the closest you can get to the NFL in college. You knew exactly what you were going to get every single Saturday from his teams, but that will never be duplicated, especially in the NIL era. You've got 18-22 year old millionaires now in college sports so we will continue to see fluctuation in play from week to week because it's harder than ever to get 100% buy in to a "standard" or "process" from kids that age and making that type of money without actually doing shite to earn it. Especially when some of those guys are making that money before they ever even take a snap of meaningful football.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:43 am to Tw1st3d
I'll probably get torched for saying this, A lot of the emotion and celebration seemed forced and fake to me in the ULM game. The players obviously heard all the criticism about playing with so little emotion in the FSU and ramped it up a bit for the cameras .
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:59 am to Tw1st3d
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The problem with an emotion driven team is that the season becomes an emotional roller coaster. It is rare for a team to be UP every week. They run hot against good teams. They run hot when they have an "us against the world" mentality with something to prove. High emotional output is difficult to sustain.
This is basically Auburn's blueprint
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:25 pm to Tw1st3d
CFB has always been an emotion driven game to some extent. Saban was one of the few that fielded teams that were NFL level methodical.
To try and recreate prime Saban with someone else in this new era of CFB would be a fool's errand. Youll just end up with a lot of FSU type outcomes whenever you run into a team that desperately wants to kick your arse
To try and recreate prime Saban with someone else in this new era of CFB would be a fool's errand. Youll just end up with a lot of FSU type outcomes whenever you run into a team that desperately wants to kick your arse
Posted on 9/8/25 at 12:33 pm to Tw1st3d
You're describing "the standard" and why Alabama had a 15 year dynasty.
The standard was playing up to the level set forth in the program. It required internal motivation. Opponent and score did not matter. Giving 100% effort in executing your job for 10 seconds 70 times a game is entirely a personal choice. He was able to get them to choose to do that more often than anyone else, ever
Saban's approach was like an elite golfer. You weren't playing against the opponents, you were just trying to go hit the very best shot each time you addressed the ball. More often than not you look up on Sunday and you're 10 strokes ahead of the field.
The standard was playing up to the level set forth in the program. It required internal motivation. Opponent and score did not matter. Giving 100% effort in executing your job for 10 seconds 70 times a game is entirely a personal choice. He was able to get them to choose to do that more often than anyone else, ever
Saban's approach was like an elite golfer. You weren't playing against the opponents, you were just trying to go hit the very best shot each time you addressed the ball. More often than not you look up on Sunday and you're 10 strokes ahead of the field.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 1:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Saban was a brilliant psychologist. He knew what buttons to push, how hard, and when. He also had the most dominant ego. He could have 60 primadonnas on the team and they would always be submissive to him. The rare occasion he had one that wasn't, they were processed. Saban was a one off.
Im hoping that DeBoer can get a handle on the ups and downs that college teams tend to have.
Im hoping that DeBoer can get a handle on the ups and downs that college teams tend to have.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 1:50 pm to Tw1st3d
Some games do require more. Honestly I always thought that was one reason we always seemed comparatively flat in the Iron Bowl. Auburn's guys were juiced and ours were "business as usual" in their mentality.
In general, though, what you're describing is absolutely why Saban oversaw the most consistently dominant program probably in college football history.
In general, though, what you're describing is absolutely why Saban oversaw the most consistently dominant program probably in college football history.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:12 pm to BABAR
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I'll probably get torched for saying this, A lot of the emotion and celebration seemed forced and fake to me in the ULM game. The players obviously heard all the criticism about playing with so little emotion in the FSU and ramped it up a bit for the cameras .
Yeah that is in your head. If you aren't at practice you don't know how they feel or what they think
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:21 pm to Tw1st3d
I want to see a team who will sprint without knowing the distance.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:32 pm to Tw1st3d
A team needs energy and excitement, but they don’t need to be “emotional” in the sense that it causes them to behave recklessly.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:58 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Saban himself once said that you can only get a team to peak three, maybe four times a year. I’m ok with an ugly win vs Wisky as long as we play with our hair on fire vs UGA.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:20 pm to cdur86
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This is basically Auburn's blueprint
It is definitely LSU's blueprint. Heck, they sometimes seemed to exist only for the express purpose of proving they were 'dissed' after losing in game one of a season.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:21 pm to BABAR
Ty’s flex after his TD run was a bit much, imho
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:22 am to Tw1st3d
Under Deboer we haven't lost at home and basically always lose away from home.
I don't think he knows how to get them up to play away from home.
At home the crowd and energy gives them some "juice" but away from BDS they are dead fish.
I don't think he knows how to get them up to play away from home.
At home the crowd and energy gives them some "juice" but away from BDS they are dead fish.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:06 am to StansberryRules
quote:At least under Deboer they have been.
but away from BDS they are dead fish.
Manziel flapping his gums about 'nobody being scared of Bama' has some merit to it - with NIL leveling the playing field. It was starting to occur under Saban before retirement, but the only programs 'scared' now are even more dysfunctional.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:53 am to captainFid
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Manziel flapping his gums about 'nobody being scared of Bama' has some merit to it
I'm hoping our kids are starting to realize this. Our A game still beats anyone, and we should expect to get everyone's A game. There's a reason the field gets stormed when we lose on the road. We've been whipping arse for nearly 20 years. Everyone senses that the beast is wounded.
I think a lot of our guys are psychologically expecting the jersey to fight half the battle for them- but that was never the case. Even in the prime saban years when we had teams "beat before the ball kicked off" those kids didn't play like that, they played aggressive way more often than not.
At this point in the Deboer tenure, we shouldn't need anymore wake up calls. You can chalk up 2024 to "year 1 under new regime" or "didn't have the right QB to run the system."
I think those excuses and all of the offseason hype just allowed that entitled attitude to continue to fester. The game in tallahassee should have extinguished it entirely. The challenge will be not letting the rot creep back in if we win these next two. Can they remember what got them there, or will they slip back into we should win because we're bama and they're not.
Ohio State 2024 is a good example of a team that went through both mindsets in a season. Some days they just showed up and relied on their talent to win the day. It cost them two ballgames. When they put their head down and just poured their focus into the game at hand, they were a dominant force. We have that same kind of roster right now. It is top to bottom the best in college football, the staff just has to get their heads right and put them in positions to play fast
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:40 am to Tw1st3d
I'm not so sure it's an emotion driven team as much as it's a team that reeks of complacency and a lack of urgency to do their job. This didn't just start this year; it's a lingering issue that began last year under Saban and has clearly carried over. I don't think Alabama is the only one with this problem, but it comes down to how coaches are managing it. While I admit they haven't been doing a great job, the actions they've taken in the last few days last week and this week are a positive sign that they're working hard to correct some of these issues.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:03 am to captainFid
This is true of any SEC team going forward: you will have 10 games where you could lose if you don’t take the opponent seriously. We already have that scenario this year by scheduling 2 power conference OOC games.
Thats the reality today and it’s as true for teams you perceive as spending their way to the top as those you don’t.
Thats the reality today and it’s as true for teams you perceive as spending their way to the top as those you don’t.
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