re: Ed Orgeron without Burrow = Gene Chizik

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prevatt33b

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You make some great points and manage to be a world class a-hole while making them.

Ed and LSU will be fine if the keep making great coaching hires.

It’s not like Burrow is gone and now CEO has to revert back to his elite coaching to keep LSU at the top.

Burrow was a 2 star his junior year of High school so correct at one point.

That 2 star stuff is to push a false narrative.

This is ridiculous petty fandom. Orgeron won at USC as the interim coach. He won at LSU as the interim coach. He has won at LSU as the permanent coach. At this point, the anomaly is his time at Ole Miss.

Gene Chizik is clownshoes who couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper sack with instructions. Orgeron is just a good coach who had a bad first coaching tenure at a second rate school a decade and a half ago.

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You make some great points and manage to be a world class a-hole while making them.

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Thank you.

Prevatt is 100% correct on this topic. After 2018 season O felt like he needed a change on offense. He goes down to the Saints to see what they are doing. Sean Peyton has a lowly assistant explain how they do things on offense. O thinks this assistant knows his stuff and hires him as a passing game coord at 400k.

O can spot talent. He will find it and bring it into his program. Can he swing and miss, sure, M Canada. But he won't stand pat just like Nick. That what makes Nick the GOAT he brings in coaches all the time.

Edit, also, please bring up OM. He, to this day says he made huge mistakes there. He micromanaged. So, even though it was a failure, he learned from that failure.

We have to recognize our rivals strengths and not ignore them.

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That's really the key difference between a LSU Miles team and an LSU Ogeron team. Coach O at least recognized what needed to change and was smart enough to bring in the coaching talent. O's balliwick is defense and line players but he knows what he needs to do on the offensive side of the ball. Miles had no clue and wasn't able to fix it.

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No coach was more stubborn about his principles for winning games than Les Miles. But he could coach. He was also never shut at home vs Alabama, twice.

Which brings me to my next point. O had to sell his soul to the BOT to get that job. We all remember the great "binder" caper that made promise after promise. So he sounds that down by promptly keeping almost the entire Les Miles staff right off the bat. Innovation or is he just trying to get his balance? As an interim coach, he promptly gets shut out by Bama at home. Then on a makeup game that creates even more hard feelings between the Gators and Tigers over "hurricane gate", he loses that one in Baton Rouge with a loaded roster that includes Fournette and Guise on the team. Les Miles doesn't lose that game.
No one expected O to survive the interim title.

In 2017 he loses 4 more games, including mighty Troy at home. He hires Canada as the OC and fires the OC. And Miles doesn't lose to Troy. How's that "binder" working out O?

In 2018, he shows what true offensive innovation is all about and promotes the tight ends coach, the reluctant coach "E" again to OC. Another 3 loss season that looked and feels exactly like the year he took the job as interim. To say the purple people wanted to take another look at that "binder" was an understatement. They now feared that coach O was more used car salesman than HC material.

Coach O didn't suddenly become a great coach in 2019. He hired Brady and had the pieces to create the perfect storm as O called it. He's not the HC that Les Miles was at LSU. He's just not as stubborn, barely.