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re: Deboer and Penn State showing mutual interest
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:27 am to gumpinmizzou
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:27 am to gumpinmizzou
I’m in the camp of “if he wants and extension let him walk.” He hasn’t been terrible, heck he had been pretty good. However, in the current climate of college football and the year to year change; locking him into a long time high buyout contract is silly for a dude that has back to back losses to okie, a loss to vandy, and a loss to the Michigan backups. Plus, I wanted Lane in the first coaching search so….
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:30 am to footstepsfalco
Are you looking for a cheaper coach or do you think there’s a better alternative out there
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:46 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I disagree. While I don't think KDB has necessarily done anything to merit a raise/extension, I don't think Byrne wants to deal with this coaching cycle. It's just too difficult to blow the whole thing up and start over when we just did it two years ago (unless, of course, he's looking to tab Grubb or Wommack as KDB's successor ).
If he's done nothing to merit it then simply don't do it. What college football needs to stop this sort of silliness is the inability for coaches under contract to be contacted without their employer's permission like the NFL.
These stupid contracts all over college football are due to the fact that the ADs are always spending someone else's money and in college athletics there is never one somebody or an ownership group to answer to when it gets out of control. The federated nature of this sport from the top down is why so many things about it have gone to shite.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:47 am to footstepsfalco
For those who want to let DeBoer leave if he angles for an extension, I want you to tell me who's out there we could hire that is better than he is. And if someone says "Lane Kiffin" you're automatically disqualified from holding any further meaningful opinions because Kiffin hasn't accomplished... well, anything, really. His being the sure-fire next great HC is a meme at this point.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:55 am to TheTideMustRoll
Look around at the quality of head coaches actually available. Y’all are being ridiculous if you think there’s an upgrade anywhere. DeBoer is going to get this done at Alabama. He’s a damn good coach. It’s just not going to happen overnight in this era.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:57 am to TheTideMustRoll
Personally I think everyone is missing the point. I don’t think this is about money. I think it’s about DeBour knowing he’s over his head here and wanting something less pressured.
The SEC is different and we all know this.
The SEC is different and we all know this.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:08 am to TheTideMustRoll
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For those who want to let DeBoer leave if he angles for an extension, I want you to tell me who's out there we could hire that is better than he is. And if someone says "Lane Kiffin" you're automatically disqualified from holding any further meaningful opinions because Kiffin hasn't accomplished... well, anything, really. His being the sure-fire next great HC is a meme at this point.
Exactly. Diego wants to let him walk if he doesn't deserve an extension/raise.
Okay, so who are you bringing in to replace him that's as good or better?
There really aren't any good options, so I think we have to give him a raise/extension if the alternative is him walking away. Yes, it sucks that that's the current state of CFB, but what's the alternative if you don't play the game?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:11 am to bamacj1999
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Personally I think everyone is missing the point. I don’t think this is about money. I think it’s about DeBour knowing he’s over his head here and wanting something less pressured.
The SEC is different and we all know this.
Clearly you haven't met many people who are as successful in life as KDB. People that attain that level of success have a different mindset. They don't get scared off by a challenge.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:13 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Look around at the quality of head coaches actually available. Y’all are being ridiculous if you think there’s an upgrade anywhere. DeBoer is going to get this done at Alabama. He’s a damn good coach. It’s just not going to happen overnight in this era
I agree with the first part. There def is not a better coach to hire unless you nab Kiffin. I still like sark but im not sure what the deal is at Texas. I mean realistically he is the most successful coach since Brown and it seems like things arent going great there.
The last part.... with the portal now, teams can legit go from nothing to title contender in a couple years (see A&M, texas tech and SMU)). Maybe our NIL is lacking some but to say it cant happen overnight isnt true
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 8:18 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:19 am to Lucky_Stryke
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There def is not a better coach to hire unless you nab Kiffin.
This board's obsession with Kiffin is hilarious. Dude has won nothing and is a total clown. Oh, and he also hired Pete fricking Golding as DC (and made him the highest paid DC in the country), who every Bama fan thinks is trash. So yeah, he also does a great job in evaluating talent for his coaching staff.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:54 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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is board's obsession with Kiffin is hilarious. Dude has won nothing and is a total clown. Oh, and he also hired Pete fricking Golding as DC (and made him the highest paid DC in the country), who every Bama fan thinks is trash. So yeah, he also does a great job in evaluating talent for his coaching staff.
I mean I agree to an extent as far as results IE playoff appearances and wins vs top ten Kiffin is lacking. Im saying hypothetically if Deboer left for PSU, anyone outside of Kiffin is a def downgrade from Deboer. (Kirby and Day obviously arent leaving). The only person who might could come in and follow maybe Sark? Maybe its just the meddling boosters and such as to why thigs arent great there.
Name a better coach than Kiffin who is a realistic option if Deboer were to leave.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:01 am to Lucky_Stryke
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Name a better coach than Kiffin who is a realistic option if Deboer were to leave.
I think Kiffin would be a downgrade, but regardless, I don't think he's a realistic option based on the bridges he has supposedly burnt.
I'm saying there are no options as good or better than KDB which is why I think we have to give him a raise/extension (even if he hasn't earned it) if the alternative is him leaving.
At this point, DeMeco is really the only guy I'd want and there's no chance of that happening right now.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:12 am to footstepsfalco
If I'm AD Im telling him we will talk the day after the Iron Bowl.
That Iron Bowl is likely the pivot between two vary different paths for Bama moving forward.
Next year we will have turnover at:
QB
RB
OL 3 of 5 minimum
WR1
DL (Keenan and possibly Smith)
LB (Lawson, Hill-Green and Jefferson)
It’s gonna take some momentum to carry us through to a successful season next year so making the playoffs and competing for the SECCG would make a massive difference in perception and morale.
There’s no way we can extend him today after 9-4 if we go into the bowl 9-3 ending the season on two losses with the playoffs on the line.
That Iron Bowl is likely the pivot between two vary different paths for Bama moving forward.
Next year we will have turnover at:
QB
RB
OL 3 of 5 minimum
WR1
DL (Keenan and possibly Smith)
LB (Lawson, Hill-Green and Jefferson)
It’s gonna take some momentum to carry us through to a successful season next year so making the playoffs and competing for the SECCG would make a massive difference in perception and morale.
There’s no way we can extend him today after 9-4 if we go into the bowl 9-3 ending the season on two losses with the playoffs on the line.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:13 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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He’s going to try and force Byrne to give KDB an extension and raise
Please don't give more money and years to an already expensive contract for Mark Richt 2.0.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:18 am to bamabonners
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Please don't give more money and years to an already expensive contract for Mark Richt 2.0.
What's the alternative? Who are you hiring if he leaves?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:20 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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This board's obsession with Kiffin is hilarious. Dude has won nothing and is a total clown.
Yes, he's had some issues, but he's had great success in building programs quickly. He's also had Heisman winners and is a great talent dinner/builder. Take away TN and the USC debacle and he's done allot.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:24 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
This board! They have no idea how they would be writhing and gnashing their teeth watching DeBoer winning national championships at Penn State that could have been Bama's. 
Dude is going to win.
Dude is going to win.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:25 am to Lucky_Stryke
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Name a better coach than Kiffin who is a realistic option if Deboer were to leave.
If DeBoer leaves, I'd like us to make a run at Cristobal. Is he an upgrade over DeBoer? No, but of who would be available if we have to go looking, that's who I would want.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:25 am to bamabonners
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He's also had Heisman winners
As a HC?
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Take away TN and the USC debacle and he's done allot.
Please list those accomplishments for me. You call KDB Mark Richt 2.0 yet he's had a more successful career (so far) than your boy Kiffin
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:29 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I think Kiffin would be a downgrade, but regardless, I don't think he's a realistic option based on the bridges he has supposedly burnt.
I'm saying there are no options as good or better than KDB which is why I think we have to give him a raise/extension (even if he hasn't earned it) if the alternative is him leaving.
At this point, DeMeco is really the only guy I'd want and there's no chance of that happening right now.
I dont think Kiffin is an upgrade over deboer but im also not so sure he is a definite downgrade either. Deboer has some head scratching losses as our headcoach like Kiffin does at Ole Miss.
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