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re: Class of 2026 Football Recruiting

Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:07 pm to
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If you would like to pretend that NIL would have no effect on where guys like Ingram, Julio, Hightower, Upshaw et al decided to play CFB if it had existed then, knock yourself out. I prefer not to live in fantasy land.


I have no dog in this fight, but ...

You do realize that your first sentence proposes a hypothetical situation that didn't exist and can't be proven, and your second sentence asserts that you live in a grounded reality.

The two scenarios are mutually exclusive.
Posted by dominantD
Member since Sep 2017
311 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:46 pm to
Whatever……
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:13 pm to
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I would rather have those 3-star guys out of HS like Dareus, Hightower, Womack, B Jones, etc. that show up every practice and game with their lunch pale and a chip on their shoulder. Those guys got multiple titles while at UA being part of classes that were not star studded across the board like later classes who most only won 1 title while they were here.


Darrius only got 1, and I recall reports of multiple starters on the 2010 team becoming complacent and big-headed, including Darreus, which makes sense considering we lost 3 games that season. Also, remember that Darreus was investigated by the UofA and the NCAA for receiving money to attending a party in Miami, Florida, hosted by a sports agent. He was suspended for the 1st two games of the season. Yes, NIL sucks in it's current form, but let's not act like some of this is new regarding highly coveted, famous, and immature college football players
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted by dominantD
Member since Sep 2017
311 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Darrius only got 1, and I recall reports of multiple starters on the 2010 team becoming complacent and big-headed, including Darreus, which makes sense considering we lost 3 games that season. Also, remember that Darreus was investigated by the UofA and the NCAA for receiving money to attending a party in Miami, Florida, hosted by a sports agent. He was suspended for the 1st two games of the season. Yes, NIL sucks in it's current form, but let's not act like some of this is new regarding highly coveted, famous, and immature college football players


I never understood why “complacency” is the default excuse used for the 2010 season. I blame two things for that season. (1) The brutal schedule consisting of FIVE (if memory serves correctly) SEC teams having bye weeks prior to playing the Tide, and (2) high ankle sprains to the two impact players on that defensive front early in the season (Darius and Upshaw). Both of them played in every game afterward, basically hobbling on one foot for weeks. That is absolute nonsense when considering that NFL players typically miss 3-4 games with that injury.

Then look at the Auburn game that year where Alabama looked like a juggernaut right up until that sickening and Auburn-lucky play where Ingram burst down the sideline only to have the ball punched out and miraculously stay inbounds where Auburn recovered. If MI doesn’t fumble there or the ball goes out of bounds, Bama probably wins that game by 2-3 TDs. Weeks later when the team is finally healthy again they absolutely destroy the Kirk Cousins-led Spartans in the bowl game. And really looked like the best team in college ball in doing so.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:09 pm to
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dominantD
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12958 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:34 pm to


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Darrius only got 1, and I recall reports of multiple starters on the 2010 team becoming complacent and big-headed, including Darreus, which makes sense considering we lost 3 games that season.


I recall that season to IIRC Ingram missed the 1st part due to a knee injury that required surgery. He was not 100% still against USC in that loss. Hightower did not return from injury until the next season. TR got injured in the first half of the LSU loss. I believe Julio played most of the season injured as well. Not the best season for many reasons.

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but let's not act like some of this is new regarding highly coveted, famous, and immature college football players


I never said that. What I was saying is I have no issue with grabbing 3 or 4 stars recruits like we are. Yes, they may get NIL, but they are definitely not getting what a 5 star is so for me to assume they would come in with a chip on their shoulder to prove they are just as good to increase their NIL is not farfetched.

My response was to the other poster who seems to think the ship is sinking because we are not getting/spending what we need to get the 5 star and without them we will never win another NC again.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:36 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83332 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:20 am to
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Hightower did not return from injury until the next season.


Hightower played in all 13 games in 2010.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14727 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:07 am to
I think we are getting bout as many 5 stars as the other top programs
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14727 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:10 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by dominantD
Member since Sep 2017
311 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:11 am to
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I never said that. What I was saying is I have no issue with grabbing 3 or 4 stars recruits like we are. Yes, they may get NIL, but they are definitely not getting what a 5 star is so for me to assume they would come in with a chip on their shoulder to prove they are just as good to increase their NIL is not farfetched. My response was to the other poster who seems to think the ship is sinking because we are not getting/spending what we need to get the 5 star and without them we will never win another NC again.


The proof will be in the pudding. The Eagles just won the Super Bowl because they simply overwhelmed the competition with waves of talented football players. Certainly, coaching is important but if you have mostly 2nd-level players across most of the roster, you are going to get 2nd-level results.

Again, go ahead and believe that that formula will work. I really don't care. DeBoer's Washington team had mostly 2nd-level players in 2023, and in the final game it showed. They had a few "elite" level guys like Penix, Odunze and an OL or two. But Michigan just out-talented them across the board.

I also said basically the same thing in the hoops thread the other day. You can get away with 12, 14, 17 turnovers per game some during the grind of the regular season. But when it REALLY counts, eventually those turnovers are going to equate to losses on the court. Championship teams don't play sloppily like that. Let's see what happens if Alabama has a bunch of TOs against Auburn and Tennessee in hoops in upcoming games.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:14 am
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14727 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:25 am to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12958 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Hightower played in all 13 games in 2010.


Thats right he missed 09 as he got injured early in the season. But he was not 100% in 2010.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12958 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:27 pm to
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I think we are getting bout as many 5 stars as the other top programs


I never said we were not just happy with recruiting as a whole. I was responded to poster that thinks our recruiting has gone downhill and that we will never win a NC again.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14727 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:06 pm to
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What I was saying is I have no issue with grabbing 3 or 4 stars recruits like we are


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My response was to the other poster who seems to think the ship is sinking because we are not getting/spending what we need to get the 5 star


Well , you kind of did It’s all good man.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16734 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by jjv0004
Greenville, SC
Member since Sep 2022
584 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:17 am to
Texas just lost their running back coach to the Detroit Lions. All of their running back recruits are a bit stunned.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46106 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 11:37 am to
I am something of a Boobie Feaster myself.
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 11:39 am
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21234 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:53 pm to
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I am something of a Boobie Feaster myself.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12958 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Elbert Hill is one of the few names in the 2026 class who is being aggressively pursued by all the major powerhouse teams of college football. So far, the player has received a whopping 29 offers but has made a commitment to none.


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Josh Newberg of On3 Recruits provided an update on Elbert Hill’s conundrum in his recent video. “You got three schools that are certainly doing a fantastic job here. Alabama, Oregon, and then USC is the team that’s really rising up following a recent visit in January for Elbert Hill.”


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Hill recently spoke of how Alabama wants him so badly and assured him that they want him to be part of their program. However, the major reason Alabama stood out for Hill was that they were genuinely interested in the player and quite frank with their communication, too. “They just came and just was real with us, and was like, ‘Hey man… we believe you could be a guy to come in here and make an impact early.’ It wasn’t even as much as a pitch. It was just having a real, genuine conversation about what would be the plan for him if he decided to come down to Alabama,” Albert Hill’s father said in a recent statement.


According to the article it is a 3 team race right now but we know things will change.

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